2012-2014 OEMS headlights on a 2010??
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Here is a list of very reputable, quality, retrofit shops. Give these guys a call and ask for a quote.
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...es-and-Vendors
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...es-and-Vendors
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Honestly, I'm not mechanically inclined enough to overcome the lack of time I have to work on the many things outside of work these days. Every project I do takes 4X longer than it should, and I have a 2 year old and 4 year old, so time is of the essence. I'm not rich, but sometimes I have more money than I have time if you know what I mean! Plus, I want it done right. I'll muck it up.
BTW I've spoken with Retro-Solutions and they are great. They are who got me what I needed (which I brought to the shop to do the work b/c again, I'd muck it up) to change the Spyder's P.O.S low beams into HID. And they have what I need to change the high beams as well, but I'm tired of spending the money on these Spyders. I don't know, maybe I should just do that since I already converted the low beams over to HID. The problem is I know things are going to go wrong with the Spyders any day, based on some posts I've read, such as the Halo going out or the LED's going out (already a couple LED's have).
Definitely let me know how your buddy's retro turns out.
BTW I've spoken with Retro-Solutions and they are great. They are who got me what I needed (which I brought to the shop to do the work b/c again, I'd muck it up) to change the Spyder's P.O.S low beams into HID. And they have what I need to change the high beams as well, but I'm tired of spending the money on these Spyders. I don't know, maybe I should just do that since I already converted the low beams over to HID. The problem is I know things are going to go wrong with the Spyders any day, based on some posts I've read, such as the Halo going out or the LED's going out (already a couple LED's have).
Definitely let me know how your buddy's retro turns out.
IF you want to hey this spyder lights but whatever reason, this is the kit Kmac is talking about. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...er-spec-d.html
This will replace that pos halogen projector in the spyder lights with an actual hid projector. It'll be like night and day.
Yes there is a difference between a halogen projector and hid projector. That's why putting HIDs in your spyder results still resulted in crap output.
But you are right, the spyder lights in general are crap. The LEDs goes out, lens leak, and usually the cheap projectors melt or deform.
This will replace that pos halogen projector in the spyder lights with an actual hid projector. It'll be like night and day.
Yes there is a difference between a halogen projector and hid projector. That's why putting HIDs in your spyder results still resulted in crap output.
But you are right, the spyder lights in general are crap. The LEDs goes out, lens leak, and usually the cheap projectors melt or deform.
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Its pretty easy actually.. The retro source gets their stuff from TRS. TRS sells PNP for $150. So you have to figure mark up so let's say $200. Plus install so $70 an hour. That's gets you pretty close to $300
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Jeez, once again, you might as well get the projectors to go along with them. Everyone I know gets junk $50 ones, and even that's stupid IMO.
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Idk, that's just TRS price tag. Paying for tad bit better quality and great customer service I guess.
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So I'm thinking I need to start over and sell the Spyder's like you've suggested. But to try and clarify, here is what I've done thus far. Replaced my OEM headlights with the smoked Sypder CCFL halo lights. They looked cool. Lighting was absolutely horrible. Dangerously bad. So I then contacted Retro-Solutions and purchased a 35W DIGITAL HID conversion kit to convert the Spyder low beams to HID. That made a huge difference, of course it cost me. So where I'm left now, is with the Spyder's with good low beams, but dangerously poor high beams (basically they are not functionable, I use the low beams 24/7 b/c the high beams are so bad). So I can either install retro high beam HID's into the Spyder housing just like I did low beams, or start all over and retrofit the stocks. Does that make sense what I've done now?
Of note, I called Spyder and they do not recommend retrofitting HID's into their housing for the high beams. I think for the reasons you all have said...poor projectors. So I guess that answers my questions. Sell Spyders on Ebay and retrofit my stocks.
Of note, I called Spyder and they do not recommend retrofitting HID's into their housing for the high beams. I think for the reasons you all have said...poor projectors. So I guess that answers my questions. Sell Spyders on Ebay and retrofit my stocks.
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The most active vendor I see on that vendor link thelariat02 posted is Lightwerkz. Then there is Retro-Solutions who I've used in the past. And then I've also read in the f150forum a recommendation for Yuke's Retrofits. Anybody heard of them or have a recommendation either way?
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Yes I would sell the spyder and retro your OEM lights.
I think where we are getting confused is what you call a retro we call PNP (plug N play)
Retrofitting your OEM housings will destroy the output on those spyder lights about ten fold. And you'll have a good functioning high beam to boot.
I have seen some lightwerks work and they do a great job, but I believe they can be pricey.
I have heard of yuke's and they sound good.
You could contact Saleen on here. He died great retrofits for a great price.
You can also look at raptor retrofit.
Tuxedoblack11 on here also does great f150 retrofits. His website is projectoretrofits.com
I think where we are getting confused is what you call a retro we call PNP (plug N play)
Retrofitting your OEM housings will destroy the output on those spyder lights about ten fold. And you'll have a good functioning high beam to boot.
I have seen some lightwerks work and they do a great job, but I believe they can be pricey.
I have heard of yuke's and they sound good.
You could contact Saleen on here. He died great retrofits for a great price.
You can also look at raptor retrofit.
Tuxedoblack11 on here also does great f150 retrofits. His website is projectoretrofits.com
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So I'm thinking I need to start over and sell the Spyder's like you've suggested. But to try and clarify, here is what I've done thus far. Replaced my OEM headlights with the smoked Sypder CCFL halo lights. They looked cool. Lighting was absolutely horrible. Dangerously bad. So I then contacted Retro-Solutions and purchased a 35W DIGITAL HID conversion kit to convert the Spyder low beams to HID. That made a huge difference, of course it cost me. So where I'm left now, is with the Spyder's with good low beams, but dangerously poor high beams (basically they are not functionable, I use the low beams 24/7 b/c the high beams are so bad). So I can either install retro high beam HID's into the Spyder housing just like I did low beams, or start all over and retrofit the stocks. Does that make sense what I've done now?
Of note, I called Spyder and they do not recommend retrofitting HID's into their housing for the high beams. I think for the reasons you all have said...poor projectors. So I guess that answers my questions. Sell Spyders on Ebay and retrofit my stocks.
Of note, I called Spyder and they do not recommend retrofitting HID's into their housing for the high beams. I think for the reasons you all have said...poor projectors. So I guess that answers my questions. Sell Spyders on Ebay and retrofit my stocks.
I also was going to mention Sammy (Saleen1013). I'd shoot him a PM.
Brad, why is Tuxedoblack's entire website only have freakin Pontiac Fiero and whatever a "chump car" is pics? I've seen his heads too and they look good. Kind of a shame he doesn't have those pics on his website.
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I'd guess you went to the wrong website.
http://www.projectoretrofits.com/apps/photos/
http://www.projectoretrofits.com/apps/photos/
forgot the S on the end. That link is MUCH better haha
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I'm guessing you're talking about eBay projector headlights, which is not considered a retrofit. And if so then I see why you think it's poor.
Yes the 2013+ OEM projector headlights will fit and work in your 2010. There is even a plug and play harness to make it simple.
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...headlight.html
Or you could do an actual retrofit with projector from let's say a Lexus into your OEM 2010 headlights and have even better lighting then the OEM f150 HIDs..
Yes the 2013+ OEM projector headlights will fit and work in your 2010. There is even a plug and play harness to make it simple.
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...headlight.html
Or you could do an actual retrofit with projector from let's say a Lexus into your OEM 2010 headlights and have even better lighting then the OEM f150 HIDs..
As for the Mirimoto connector though posted above, I just recently started having an issue where when I turn on the truck sometimes the HIDs won't turn on. Not sure if it is the control module, or connectors themselves? It doesn't do it all the time though.
Anyone else ever have issues with this harness?
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For those keeping score at home...I found my issue! Water in the passenger side connector and the ds light connector came loose. The relay box was fried and I ordered a new harness from RaptorRetrofit...glad I did cause the newer harness is a better design with quality connectors!
*I bought the old harness used so was unable to collect under warranty
*I bought the old harness used so was unable to collect under warranty