I just put in my Spyder projectors with a 35w 6000k HID kit. Looks awesome and puts out some amazing light!! But i am getting a bounce when going over any bumps. Its really annoying. Has anyone else experienced this and is there any fixes out there?

 

Common, VERY common - as these are total junk.

Not surprising - these heads were never meant to take HID capsules in the first place. And that light you THINK is 'awesome' is in fact glaring scattered and poorly distributed. Awesome it is not. Replace 'Awsome' with 'Horrible'. Solve for all values of 'awesome'.

You'd know this if you saw a proper true HID projector in action.

Only true recourse - chit-can them and invest in some quality components. Lesson learned - or not

www.theretrofitsource.com. 25% off group buy effective until end of tomorrow - Hurry! PLease Act Now ! Operators are standing by!

One example alternative that will allow you to retain part of yer investment (keep the crappy Sphincters): a Retro-Kwik kit designed specifically to upgrade them with good porjectors: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...er-spec-d.html

good luck!


MGD

 

Unfortunately for you, everything MGD is saying is correct. The only reason I'm chiming in is so you don't take what he said personally. He has a way with that...

I know that those are junk because I had Recons on my '10 FX2 and can definitely say without a doubt, it was some of the worst money I have ever spent. Spyder, Recon, they are all the same, just priced differently. Those things aren't meant for HIDs, so that is your first problem. The second problem is that they are very very poorly made headlights and you will have more problems than that down the road. If you saw properly done HID projector headlights in person, you would be ashamed of what you have. That's just the honest truth. Also, 6000k is far from optimal for actual light usage. Do yourself a HUGE favor and go back to regular halogen headlights or do a proper retrofit as MGD suggested. And if I'm not mistaken, you could also get a set of '13 or '14 OEM HID headlights to go in there, but that would be more expensive than a retrofit. Hope this helps!

And if everything we are saying does go over your head, your HIDs are probably bouncing due to poor seating of the bulbs.

 

I appreciate your input...... but..... I am looking for help to solve an issue, not an opinion about these lights. I did the research before purchasing and in no way are they "horrible". I know many people on here that have these exact ones and have been happy with them. I understand they are a cheap replacement.
I had/have many vehicles with true HID Projectors and the light they put out is a better because of the projector quality but side by side there is not a night and day difference.
If they are "junk" and everyone has this problem then is there a fix besides canning them and buying some "quality components"? Thats all im wondering

 

Hey, thanks! I'm a-workin' on that thar deliv'ry thang

I used "good luck" and , dint I?

OP - Please disregard ever'thang ol' Bubba said. Ah's full o' chit. Dang meddy-kayshuns! Thought ah wuz on th' other forum, fer a spell!


MGD

 

OP there is no fix. They are literal crap. If you would have done your research you would have known to stay far far away..

Seeing a tru HID projector next to a halogen projector with HIDs crammed in them and comparing them you would see one heck of a night and day difference. Wider, brighter, and more throw, and not glaring. .

To put it short.. you are SOL.
Cut your losses and get rid of them and go back to halogens or do a proper retrofit.

 

Is it POSSIBLE to fix them though? I think they're crap too, as my neighbor found out with his own projectors and went and got OEM FX heads recently, but it might be possible to fix them with effort. You'll definitely have to crack them open to attempt a fix.

How much did you pay for them? Like $400?

 

OF course you have to crack them open to install a Retro-Kwik.

Cracking them open will not fix a poor bulb seat ( design flaw ) - or the simple fact that the optics are all wrong to begin with.

I suspect that you may be thinking that something has broken loose or is not secure within the halogen projector. Possible - but there ain't much going on there to begin with that would reduce the 'shakes'. Re-engineer the adjustment mechanism?

OP - for every one person who alleges they are happy, I can show you several more who are honest enough with themselves to admit they are not. ( And I'm sorry but human nature virtually dictates that if a person spends this much on junk, he is more likely than not going to refuse to admit he effed up if their performance is sup-par. And it clearly is ). I've seen both too - there IS no comparison.

They can be salvaged - some are quite captivated by their unique appearance - but you need to spend some additional $$$ on a Retro-Kwik to get them there. It's not going to be cheap. Past the cost hurdle though, the results will be satisfying.

Follow this feller's progress and you'll see. He at least acknowledges the huge shortcomings of the existing heads:

==> http://www.f150forum.com/f4/retrofit...dlight-252141/

Good luck
MGD

 

It's funny how different the responses are on this forum then on the other ones I'm on. I got the answer i was looking for on another forum. I was just looking for some info. Not people telling me i dont know what im talking about or that i didnt do my research. Obviously the spyder projectors are not even close to the same quality as stock projectors or a nice retro fit. But I can't afford those and thought I would try these. My buddys new ram projectors look very similar when our trucks are sxs right next to each other. They aren't as bright and don't have as bad of glare but again, besides the color, not a night and day difference. The spyders are a cheap Chinese product and I understood that when buying them. But for $175 I thought it was worth a shot especially from what I was told by others that have them. If they don't last then they don't last but come on.....

 

^^^^ THAT is Classic!

You would be astonished how often folks post, and post and post, until they find the answer they wanted to hear.

And you are also displaying the typical butt-hurtedness that so often accompanies such discussions.

This is an open discussion forum ... c'mon!

Glad you found a solution to the 'shakes'. Care to share? Honestly - I'm curious. ( let me take a SWAG, though - a couple washers and some JB Stikweld )

BTW - the Ram projectors are as poor as the stock F150 OEM units - both are completely outclassed by retrofitted units - yes there is an easy drop-in retrofit path for a factory F150 projector - did not take long.

C'mon Jason - it's all good. We are all just trying to help, is all. My methods may seem unconventional, but me heart be in the right place



MGD
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Glad you found it. You mind sharing the answer for future noobies.

You do realize Dodge..i mean Fiats projectors are halogen right? So if your HIDs are dimmer than his halogens that should tell you that what you got is crap.

 

I am glad you found an answer to the problem. I think most of us on here can appreciate you not having the funds to do what we were suggesting. And while you did seem to take offense to what everyone was trying to tell you, just know that we are suggesting it because it is THE BEST option for lighting performance. Granted, we did sidestep your question, but only because we know that you (and everyone else) can have much better. But in fairness, I did suggest what the issue likely was:

But yes, please share what the fix is so anyone else who looks at this thread in the future will find a fix as well. Good luck with the headlights and hopefully one day you can enjoy some awesome retrofitted or OEM HID heads

 

I was thinking more along the lines of fixing the adjustment mech to one position, like cementing it at a single height so that it holds better and doesn't bounce. Anything with any adjustment to it or wiggle, superglue.

As much as I love this forum, it pisses me off that this is what happens, in a gang assault, every time someone mentions anything other than a retrofit. I wouldn't do anything but a retro with my own money, but okay, that's me. You have those headlights and you have an issue. There are way to address the problem other than telling you that you're stupid for buying them and that you need to buy something else. If you think they're fine other than the bounce, then they're fine for you other than the damn bounce, period.

 

Works both ways. And I do not perceive any intentional 'ganging' going on.

I'll just leave this here ( lifted straight from another recent thread ) - and equally relevant.

Bingo!

MGD

PS - you should not have to fix the dang things in the first place, lol. You think they never bounced with halogens?

 

It's the wording and perceived tone which you, and others, use that I have a problem with. Between 5 of you all saying the same thing, and in the same way, it's simple berating of the OP, on every occasion. Offer an alternative, nicely, then stop when they blatantly, and repeatedly, express little to no interest in your alternative. You can present your case, then leave it at that.

Things like this make people leave the forum and move to others, or leave them all together. You probably could care less that they do, but I do care. People shouldn't have to say "before any jumps down my throat . . ."
No, you shouldn't have to fix them. But they're purchased and installed already, so what is he to do?