Dual Projector beam retrofits
Dual Projector beam retrofits
Is there anyone out there making a retrofit kit for the 2013 F-150 that has a dual projector beam, one for high beam and one for low beam in HID? I had just started researching for new lights and can't find anyone who makes these. I can find all kinds of kits the have the HID in the low beam and halogen in the high beam, but not HID in both. Seems to me if someone were going to upgrade to HIDs that this would have been the first best upgrade although no one is making them or am I not looking in the right places? Oops! I need to change my avatar!!!
Is there anyone out there making a retrofit kit for the 2013 F-150 that has a dual projector beam, one for high beam and one for low beam in HID? I had just started researching for new lights and can't find anyone who makes these. I can find all kinds of kits the have the HID in the low beam and halogen in the high beam, but not HID in both. Seems to me if someone were going to upgrade to HIDs that this would have been the first best upgrade although no one is making them or am I not looking in the right places? Oops! I need to change my avatar!!!
To do that, would require a non-OEM aftermarket housing - and most all of them are poor-quality junk, and the units with two so-called projectors per side (they really are not) look exceedingly ricey.
And - it also unnecessary - a proper high-quality projector retrofit uses an HID bi-xenon projector - both lows and highs are incorporated in one housing. A cutoff shield is moved via an actuating solenoid to provide this functionality. The bulb itself does not move.
Some resources to help you understand this further:
www.theretrofitsource.com
www.hidplanet.com
and some examples:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...t-members.html
A few of our members who provide retrofit services:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...-retrofit.html
https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...-retrofit.html
contact info for bilnvic: https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...-bilinvic.html
==> he's here: http://www.f150forum.com/f83/bilinvi...rofits-152753/
good luck.

MGD
Last edited by MGDfan; Feb 10, 2014 at 11:44 AM.
That's fine and all, but a retrofit do it yourself kit may be a little bit out of my expertise and I really would like to have 35 watt low beams and 55 watt high beams and you can't get that out of a single bulb. Oh well, guess I'll just have to find someone who might can do a custom one off.
That's fine and all, but a retrofit do it yourself kit may be a little bit out of my expertise and I really would like to have 35 watt low beams and 55 watt high beams and you can't get that out of a single bulb. Oh well, guess I'll just have to find someone who might can do a custom one off.
What you want is going to be expensive with quality parts - Four ballasts, four HID capsules and yer lowbeams will still be a glaring mess - as placing any HID capsule into the housings yer talking about is very suboptimal - those 'projectors' were designed for halogen bulbs only - added risk of melting same with an HID capsule as the lenses are plastic.
I guarantee you that done correctly (with a 50w FX-R, CBI HID capsules) you'll outperform any of the units you are thinking about. The crappola-DDM-quality type ballasts are junk - and Never give you rated power to begin with. You need to use high-quality ballasts ( and matching bulbs) to get there.
I'll wager it would be no more expensive - and FAR more effective to do it right the first time.
You should really read though everything that was linked to. yer missing some understanding here.
Doing this with crap parts is just not worth it -save yer $$$ until you can afford a proper retrofit.
Now - you CAN find someone to retro the dual projector housings with Four TRS HID projectors - and that will be both expensive AND Awesome!
MGD
Last edited by MGDfan; Feb 10, 2014 at 12:03 PM.
MGD, I know the junk that is out there. That's why I posed the question on here as there are a lot more people on here that do custom work and would know who I needed to turn to. Like I said I'm looking for something that is not your everyday piece meal junk that is out there.
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I get what you are after; however, doing what you want will cost almost double doing a single projector retrofit and won't really add any additional functionality. As others have suggested, a retrofit with a single projector and cutoff shield is all you need for superb performance. I'm with MGD. And the reason no one is making them is because there is no added functionality to having a separate low beam and high beam bulb when it comes to HIDs. A single b-xenon projector with a cutoff shield is like driving around with high beams that are controlled and blocked above a certain height. When you put your high beams on, no extra light is added, the cutoff shield is just moved so the light is free. Can't get much better than that!
MGD, I know the junk that is out there. That's why I posed the question on here as there are a lot more people on here that do custom work and would know who I needed to turn to. Like I said I'm looking for something that is not your everyday piece meal junk that is out there.
Roger that - it really wasn't clear earlier - sorry.
I'm certain this can be done. May need to use smaller projectors ( MH1's, etc fixed as a highbeam) for the high beams, and a larger single Xenon projector in the mains (or an FX-R as a fixed lowbeam).
Shoot - you could even have QUAD-Xenons by using a pair of bi-xenon projectors per side - same as above but with both sets with active cutoff shields.
TRS has all the harnesses and other gear to do this as well.
Would be expensive, unique and sweet.
The lowest-quality component would be the housings - I keep seeing poor fitment. leakage, lens crazing/yellowing, lack of any effective warranty / tech support. Recon appears to be the worst, along with Spyder. That's my biggest concern.
Good luck - would love to see the results!

MGD
Last edited by MGDfan; Feb 10, 2014 at 12:24 PM.
Hi.
Roger that - it really wasn't clear earlier - sorry.
I'm certain this can be done. May need to use smaller projectors ( MH1's, etc fixed as a highbeam) for the high beams, and a larger single Xenon projector in the mains (or an FX-R as a fixed lowbeam).
Shoot - you could even have QUAD-Xenons by using a pair of bi-xenon projectors per side - same as above but with both sets with active cutoff shields.
TRS has all the harnesses and other gear to do this as well.
Would be expensive, unique and sweet.
The lowest-quality component would be the housings - I keep seeing poor fitment. leakage, lens crazing/yellowing. Recon appears to be the worst, along with Spyder. That's my biggest concern.
Good luck - would love to see the results!

MGD
Roger that - it really wasn't clear earlier - sorry.
I'm certain this can be done. May need to use smaller projectors ( MH1's, etc fixed as a highbeam) for the high beams, and a larger single Xenon projector in the mains (or an FX-R as a fixed lowbeam).
Shoot - you could even have QUAD-Xenons by using a pair of bi-xenon projectors per side - same as above but with both sets with active cutoff shields.
TRS has all the harnesses and other gear to do this as well.
Would be expensive, unique and sweet.
The lowest-quality component would be the housings - I keep seeing poor fitment. leakage, lens crazing/yellowing. Recon appears to be the worst, along with Spyder. That's my biggest concern.
Good luck - would love to see the results!

MGD
Yer very welcome - get tight with some of those retrofitters. There are a bunch more listed on both HIDplanet and the TRS site too ( if there are any geographical concerns)- those fellers like Bill , Tux and Saleen are true Wizards - if anyone can do it, they can.
May need to book well ahead as they tend to queue up some. All great fellers too
Best of luck!

MGD
Last edited by MGDfan; Feb 10, 2014 at 12:35 PM.
In a quad set up try not to run the same projector for both. Use projectors that compliment each other.. Mini H1 wide low beam, and mini D2S great high beam. Best of both worlds
Also reason you don't find them with separate high and low is the constant turning on of the HID capsule without it having enough time to warm up before it is turned off will greatly decrease the life the said HID.



