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What is the best H13 bulb?
I want to upgrade my headlight bulbs. What is the best bulb for this?
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Originally Posted by Boataddict
(Post 3831645)
I want to upgrade my headlight bulbs. What is the best bulb for this?
thanks I looked into this when i very first got my truck and the best ones you could get were no better than whats already on the truck. Im gonna go the HID route at some point. might be worth you looking into them. |
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Not quite sure how they can be 80% brighter while still using the same wattage 65/55, to still stay legal. Sounds like marketing numbers to me, after all 73% of statistics are made up on the spot. :) Nothing wrong with the bulbs I got from FoMoCo, and I see no need to blind other drivers with even more glare than a truck of our size.
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I had silverstars in my last F150 and there was an improvement over stock.
They were not so bright that they blinded everyone. My question was to see if there was anything better than the silverstars. |
Originally Posted by Boataddict
(Post 3831962)
I had silverstars in my last F150 and there was an improvement over stock.
They were not so bright that they blinded everyone. My question was to see if there was anything better than the silverstars. Even thought the PIAA's are almost double the cost, I feel they were worth it. Just a bit whiter than the silverstars, and supposed to last a lot longer. I saved my PIAA's to put in my '09 - just haven't gotten around to doing it yet. http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H13.html Edit - maybe not double the cost anymore: http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-Xtreme-Wh.../dp/B001CTRKFQ |
I am using PIAA's. Worth it to me and the output is much better than factory.
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i too am using the piaas better then stock i have used the silverstars but they burnt out to fast
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80% is a bit of a misnomer, but they are great bulbs. Search for Daniel Stern's comments on them.
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Silverstars last half as long as the regular Sylvania Standard bulbs.
There are SilverStar Ultras, but not sure how much better they really are. Anyone ever try LED bulbs? Got a pair of standard sylvania h13 , i'm not quite up to doing a full hid conversion yet. |
Originally Posted by RedPhive
(Post 4886944)
Silverstars last half as long as the regular Sylvania Standard bulbs.
There are SilverStar Ultras, but not sure how much better they really are. Anyone ever try LED bulbs? Got a pair of standard sylvania h13 , i'm not quite up to doing a full hid conversion yet. |
ive been running the philips crystal vision ultras for a while now.. definitely much brighter/ whiter than stock and much better output vs. stock as well. i see much further and brighter with these bulbs
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Originally Posted by RedPhive
(Post 4886944)
Silverstars last half as long as the regular Sylvania Standard bulbs.
There are SilverStar Ultras, but not sure how much better they really are. Anyone ever try LED bulbs? Got a pair of standard sylvania h13 , i'm not quite up to doing a full hid conversion yet. Standard Sylvania bulbs boast quite a decent life span. The Silverstar line are only guaranteed for a year. I've had four sets of Silverstars and only one made it past 12 months. Most failed around the 8 month mark.
Originally Posted by kingfish51
(Post 4886951)
Not sure why you say the Silverstars last half as long. I am using a set in my 09 that I originally put in my 04. Then in my 07. Still going strong.
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Originally Posted by Raptor05121
(Post 4887022)
Time is a misnomer for life span. Bulbs (mostly) degenerate when they are on. For the average driver with 10-15 hours of burn time a week, Silverstar bulbs generally only last around a year. Like you said, they can last past a year- if you rarely ever drive at night :whistle:
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My Silverstar Ultras are 4 years old and still going strong. I run them day and night unless I'm just kicking around town.
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I put in Silverstars in my previous truck, after going thru 4 bulbs in less than 3 years, went back to stock. I do a lot of driving at night. For my '09, I tried the PIAA's and compared to stock were a tad brighter but the higher color tricked my eyes being able to see better. Don't know durability as I ended up going retro's.
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I've never had any issues with the silver stars or the ultras.....Philips xtremes are good too.....
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There are only a handful of vehicles using LEDs as primary light sources- Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc. Its not possible to use LEDs in our trucks. |
Originally Posted by Raptor05121
(Post 4887022)
There are only a handful of vehicles using LEDs as primary light sources- Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc. Its not possible to use LEDs in our trucks.
Standard Sylvania bulbs boast quite a decent life span. The Silverstar line are only guaranteed for a year. I've had four sets of Silverstars and only one made it past 12 months. Most failed around the 8 month mark. Time is a misnomer for life span. Bulbs (mostly) degenerate when they are on. For the average driver with 10-15 hours of burn time a week, Silverstar bulbs generally only last around a year. Like you said, they can last past a year- if you rarely ever drive at night :whistle: |
Originally Posted by RedPhive
(Post 4889325)
I see H13 led lights online at a lot of places, why would they not be usable for a F-150? not bright enough?
Originally Posted by 88racing
(Post 4889328)
Cough cough......unless you retrofit some in.....
Lexus: http://s1.aecdn.com/images/news/batt...d-26530_12.jpg Caddy: http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/journa.../headlamps.jpg How it works: http://www.zercustoms.com/news/image...adlights-2.jpg |
I have been running Philips X-Treme bulbs for 2 years now with no issues what so ever. The benefits are miles over stock. They include shining more light to the curb side of the road, brighter beam further down the road without causing glare onto on comming traffic. There are sharp cut-offs on both beams. I find these to be great when traveling at night on unlit roads and highways making the drive less stressful as the light does travel further down the road. As their site states it's where the hot spot is in relation to the reflector. These seem to cast light where it's needed. I also have a set on my Boxster as well. They do last a long time.
Here is a link to a US seller --->http://store.candlepower.com/bfcopoh1390p.html |
I have been getting about 4-6 years or 140k miles out of my Silverstar heads and fogs... Good enough for me.
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Great results guys. When I had halogens, I replaced them every year right before winter (longer nights). After about a year or two, the halogen cycle starts the slow down and deteriorate, and they lose about 20-30% output.
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Back in the day, if you had a four headlight system, we would replace the 'Hi' beam with Aircraft Landing Lights.
Really, really illegal, even back then (1967-70) but were like having two Police spot-lites in the grill. |
Originally Posted by High-ster
(Post 4891163)
Back in the day, if you had a four headlight system, we would replace the 'Hi' beam with Aircraft Landing Lights.
Really, really illegal, even back then (1967-70) but were like having two Police spot-lites in the grill. |
Dude, this was back in the mid-60's.
Automotive stores in Ann Arbor carried them on the shelves, back then. All I remember was that they were round and had a clear lens instead of being fluted. I also remember the low beam headlight had to be removed so one of the blades for the connection could be altered so the low beams wouldn't operate at the same time as the Aircraft Landing Lites because of the amperage draw. If that wasn't done, the fuse for the headlights would blow, constantly. Edit: I did have some problems with melting connectors on my 1961 Dodge Dart 'Pioneer', but they worked really, really well in my 1965 Corvair 'Monza'. After the 'Monza' I bought my 1969 Dodge Dart 340 'Swinger' with only 2 headlights instead of 4 so I sorta lost interest after that. I paid 2,400$ for that Swinger, out the door. |
Originally Posted by Raptor05121
(Post 4891259)
What did you guys replace them with, exactly? Both of my airplanes have standard 35W landing lights @ ~1000lm each. Not exactly the brightest thing in the world.
I think you'll find that the older A-Pillar mounted spot lights used by many police agencies had a sealed beam similar to the aircraft landing lights mentioned. They are indeed pretty bright. The amperage draw was pretty significant if I recall correctly. I used to have one in the basement. Let me see if I still have it. |
I've used the PIAA Xtremes in the past, and really like them.
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If you read the reviews on Amazon a lot of the higher output bulbs tend to burn out faster.
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Originally Posted by BarryT82
(Post 4892562)
If you read the reviews on Amazon a lot of the higher output bulbs tend to burn out faster.
:thumber: |
Originally Posted by Raptor05121
(Post 4889472)
Those are not meant to be used as primary sources of illumination. They give off 250, maybe 300 lumens. Thats about the same as your turn signals or a handheld flashlight. Most people buy those "bulbs" for fog lamps for purely aesthetic purposes. As far as using them to see anything, you'd be better off getting a candle.
Far from it. There are only a few LED modules out there powerful enough to compete with halogens/HIDs in the thousands of lumens range. I belive the new Audi A8 uses LED headlights, the new Mitsubishi Leaf, Cadillac Escalade, and the Lexus Ls600 series. Not only do they emit INTENSE amounts of heat (the whole housing is a heatsink) they use a combination of reflectors and projectors to get proper beam control, because they are using one MASSIVE LED die instead of many small ones. I believe that single die is rated at maybe 27W. Retrofitting LEDs is a LONG ways away. I'd give it maybe another 6-7 years before they are common place and manufacturers can get the heat down and output up. Lexus: http://s1.aecdn.com/images/news/batt...d-26530_12.jpg Caddy: http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/journa.../headlamps.jpg How it works: http://www.zercustoms.com/news/image...adlights-2.jpg LED sealed beam replacements....... I do agree with you that they do produce alot of unwanted heat.....jw speaker #8700 has a ungodly sized heat sink on the back if it.... |
Never changed a headlight since around the mid-70's.
I just imagine that they change out lots easier than back n da day. Trim ring had to be removed, and if a spring was attached for aiming onto the trim ring, LOOK OUT!! Usually 3 slotted head sheet metal screws were used to hold the trim ring, and they stripped constantly. When installing the new sealed beam, the spring had to be re-stretched back to the trim ring and that's when things usually started going wrong. |
The reviews and comments on here about having halogen bulbs burn on in a year or less are usually from people installing the bulbs and touching the bulbs with their bare hands, leaving oil residue that creates a hotspot on the bulb.
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I purchased a set of the Phillips bulbs last night.
There's a $10 mail-in rebate which takes them down to $21 shipped for the set. |
The Philips are the best I have used and will continue to buy them.
From reading I did, Lasers appear to be the wave of the future for headlights. BMW was working on some prototypes. |
What bulbs do the fog lights on a 2012 F150 use? I've seen so many different things that I'm not sure which is correct.
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Originally Posted by TruckGuy24
(Post 4894249)
The Philips are the best I have used and will continue to buy them.
From reading I did, Lasers appear to be the wave of the future for headlights. BMW was working on some prototypes. Lasers WILL be the light source of the future. Along with many, many more applications. I recall reading my 'Weekly Reader' back in the early 60's about the developement of Lasers (Light that has been Amplified by Stimulated Emission of Radiation) |
Yeah the technology is amazing. I seem to recall the article saying how the challenge was getting the light to be focused and properly aimed for headlight applications. I think hids are an in-between technology.
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I installed the Phillips bulbs this evening and the difference can be seen, but it isn't that much of a difference. The bulbs are a pain in the ass to remove.
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