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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 06:33 PM
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Ride height difference?

Well, I've done quite a bit of searching and haven't found the info that I'm looking for. I am wondering if anyone knows whether or not there is a difference in the factory ride height for a 2WD vs. AWD in the 2011-2012 HDs. Presumably, I would think that there is. The reason I'm wondering is because I KNOW I can safely fit a 305/40/22 on the front with no rub, but I would really like the ability to have a little more cushion and be able to fill the wheel wells a little better as well. I need to make my decision by the end of April. As always, thanks in advance for any help!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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I can't guarantee it, and I'm not entirely sure what the physical mechanical differences between normal 4x4 and AWD are, but I'd have to assume they're (very close to) the same mechanical, and it's just a difference in how power is sent, controlled, etc. 04-08 4x2 and 4x4 have almost exactly 2" in height difference, and it's very similar or exactly the same for y'all. The 09+ 2WDs supposedly have slightly larger wheel wells, and are slightly taller (very little) IMO than the 04-08s.

As for your more important question, my 2006 2WD had 305/40/22 (on aftermarket wheels) when I bought it and it was 100% bone stock other than the wheels, and I had absolute zero rubbing of any kind. I do think it may have been trimmed for them, but it wasn't close to rubbing for me when I stuck my head in there, from what I remember. Wheel backspace, width, etc. matters, but I don't know the stats on those old wheels.

Actually, this is the info on them:

http://www.wheelseasy.com/index.php?...fkc9uvrbfgpp76

22x9.5 +30 offset, so 6.43" off backspace. The factory 20s have 6.5" of backspace IIRC, so yours are probably similar. That's said, with that info, I think you'll be perfectly fine.

Edit: yours are 22x9" with +44 offset, 6.73" backspace. That's so damn close that I doubt you have anything at all to worry about.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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Definitely appreciate the input Kent! That's kinda what I was thinking too, in relevance to the 4x4s and AWDs. Really hoping there's someone out there with some concrete info though.... I wanna do the 305/45s SOOOOO bad... But if it rubs it'll make me wanna puke. LOL!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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Dadgumit man! Your edit-added info makes me wanna just go ahead and order the dang thangs already... Carap... LOL
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Sorry, I kept adding stuff but yeah, the 305/40 should fit no problem, 305/45 I'm unsure about.

My opinion though, my truck had an excellent stance with those tires and I think it would've looked awesome with a 2" rear drop. Those 305/45 are 32.8" tall and I highly doubt they'd fit without a leveling kit, which I doubt is the look you're going for haha. I also think they would look worse because there'd be too much tire. The 305/40 had an appropriate amount for a truck, but little enough to be "low-pro" and look good without being stretched and stupid, ricey, whatever.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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I'm about to go eat, so I'll go look at my fenders and tell you whether or not they're trimmed a little bit. You opposed to trimming? And what size tires came on the truck?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Well it's funny that you mention that bc 2" rear drop shackles are in the VERY near future as well. As for there "being too much tire", are you talking about it looking like too much tire vs. the wheel or too much tire looking "stuffed" in the wheel wells? I've seen some 305/45s on the same wheels but it was on an AWD Harley truck... Current tires that came on it are 275/40/22s. Don't WANT to trim, but I'm thinking if it DOES rub, it'll be on the upper control arms if anything...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Well it'll look great with the shackles! I almost wish I had gone the lowered route cause of how much I'm fixin to spend lifting it . . . a 2/4 drop with the best components available would've been cheap in comparison

By too much, I mean too much like it'll look stuffed as well as it looking like there's too much meat for street 22. It would be in that awkward stage between a street tire and offroad tire size. For comparison, those 305/45 tires would be just as tall, and wider (more aggressive stance) than the 275/60/20 tires currently on my truck. And my truck is completely going for the "offroad" look. I think they would look completely different on an AWD because those are 2" taller.

But tire size, extent of wheel well-filling, etc. is completely personal. But I still don't know if you can run those 45s without 2" of lift up front, they're just so big and wide. Not surprised an AWD can clear them though. I think the 40s are definitely the way to go.

No trimming to report on my rig, stock as could be
 

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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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As far as wheel well filling goes, yours would look almost exactly like this:



And I couldn't imagine running 33s on a lowered 2WD. There's no room to lower the back here!

Check out how Stealth's used to look with 305/40/22s in post #38. That's perfect as far as I'm concerned, but has a 2/4 drop there.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/wh...-wheels-3.html
 

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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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Yep... You're right man... I definitely don't think I can fit a 305/45 in the front. I went back outside and looked at it again and it's just too close to the upper arm to chance it. When trying to figure if I had room, I failed to remember that the tires that are currently on the truck are worn out already. Taking that into consideration, there's just no way and I'll be danged if I'm gonna do a leveling kit to squeeze em in there. Like you said, not the look that I'm going for... But after looking closely at Stealth's truck, it makes me want 305/40s with a 2/4 drop. LOL! His looks so nice! At least now I know what size tire to go with. Now I have to figure out whether to just do 2" rear shackles or a 2/4 drop... Dammit man.

BTW, looking at Neilboy's ride on that same thread DEFINITELY showed me that AWDs sit quite a bit higher as well. Thanks for shedding some light on all that for me brother!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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Well the good thing is that shackles are inexpensive and easy to do, plus don't require an alignment. So, you can always run those first and then drop it later if you decide you want to, and not be out much time or cash. On 2WDs the shackles make a noticeable difference. Stealth's does look really good though!

On the other hand, the Belltech drops are toooo much money. And you have been slaving away at the 9-5 (you wish right? ) . . .

Neilboy's got Cooper LTZ all terrains on his too! He definitely should have gotten 45s cause those look like rubber bands. Still looks really good though.

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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:42 PM
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I am not sure the answers you are looking for are in it, but here is the 2012 dimensions sheet from fleet.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/TRUCKBBAs...12_F150_SB.pdf
 
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by madmaxmutt
I am not sure the answers you are looking for are in it, but here is the 2012 dimensions sheet from fleet.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/TRUCKBBAs...12_F150_SB.pdf
Thank ya sir! A lot of good info in that link.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Well the good thing is that shackles are inexpensive and easy to do, plus don't require an alignment. So, you can always run those first and then drop it later if you decide you want to, and not be out much time or cash. On 2WDs the shackles make a noticeable difference. Stealth's does look really good though!

On the other hand, the Belltech drops are toooo much money. And you have been slaving away at the 9-5 (you wish right? ) . . .

Neilboy's got Cooper LTZ all terrains on his too! He definitely should have gotten 45s cause those look like rubber bands. Still looks really good though.

Glad to help my man!
Yeah, now that I'm looking around at drop kits, all I seem to find is Ground Force and Belltech... And Belltech doesn't even offer a 2/4. All they offer is a 3/5.5 (which is definitely more than I want) or a 1/2 which doesn't seem like enough. So yeah, prolly gonna stick with 2" shackles for now....
 
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 05:45 PM
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I think that 3/5.5 is a rear flip kit that can be changed by adding lift shackles, and other stuff, but I don't know. I do wonder why they don't have a simple 2/4.
 
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