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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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http://autos.msn.com/advice/windowsh...tentid=4019057
 
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Here are the ten bestsellers with total sales figures for calendar year 2002, based on data published by J.D. Power and Associates:


Ford F-Series
811,164

Chevrolet Silverado
652,646

Toyota Camry
434,145

Honda Accord
398,980

Dodge Ram
396,934

Ford Taurus
332,690

Honda Civic
313,159

Ford Explorer
312,371

Dodge Caravan
244,911

Ford Focus
243,199
beat the chevy by a pretty good amount! keep it up ford! 4 out of 10 isn't bad at all!

so whats this, 27 years that the f150 has been the top selling truck in america?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Harley#356
beat the chevy by a pretty good amount! keep it up ford! 4 out of 10 isn't bad at all!
so whats this, 27 years that the f150 has been the top selling truck in america?
Yes, they beat Chevrolet. But there are still more "GM"trucks sold than Ford. If you count GMC trucks, which are the same thing as Chevrolet, Fords claim to fame goes down the tubes.

I'll be fair though. I'll let Ford throw the Lincoln Blackwood in it's total count. Hmmm? Lets see that adds another 15-20 right there...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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LOL, yeah I always wanted to mention that about Chevy and GMC, but never had the right forum. Oh well.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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I'll be fair though. I'll let Ford throw the Lincoln Blackwood in it's total count. Hmmm? Lets see that adds another 15-20 right there...
No, it has to be in the strong 30s.
I think there are 3 of them on this forum alone
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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GM could build trucks until their arms fall off, I still would never buy one!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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well thats makes no sense at all though. hmm, let us add GMC and Chevy trucks together to try and get a total higher than the fseries, because we can't do it on our own individually
just cuz they are "sister" companies, doesn't mean adding them all up together to beat one SINGLE model means they win. They are 2 separate trucks, 2 separate brands, so 2 separate amounts sold, not one big total

 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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The best-selling vehicle in America for twenty-one straight years, the Ford F-150 finished in first yet again in 2002.
I think this is just for the F-150. We all know the F-150 has been the best selling VEHICLE for the past 20 years or so. So maybe this is just the F-150 and they didn't include the F-250/F-350 work trucks
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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I'm not trying to say GM wins, I just stating the facts. GM put more trucks on the road last year than Ford. I'm not asking anyone to like them, or buy them, I'm just setting the record straight.

So what your saying is, you would never buy a Chevrolet, but you would buy a GMC? No, I didn't think so. Why? Because they are the SAME truck. Call it how you want to, but GM still sold more light duty trucks last year...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by ricekicker
I think this is just for the F-150. We all know the F-150 has been the best selling VEHICLE for the past 20 years or so. So maybe this is just the F-150 and they didn't include the F-250/F-350 work trucks
Yep, you got it. It's based on light duty sales. My guess is if they broke the numbers down on the heavy duty series trucks (250/350) Ford would come out on top there.
The Super Duty has been king of that market for a few years now. GM is trying to get a better market share as well as Dodge. They are both gaining grounds, but still not enough to take the title from Ford.
I think Ford is about to assure keeping that spot with the introduction of the 6.0 diesel. The hp/tq numbers look awesome...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Call it how you want to, but GM still sold more light duty trucks last year...
Yep, you got it. It's based on light duty sales.
Sorry, GM fans! ... numbers tell it all!

GMC sold only a little over 110,000 Sierras last year. That number combined with Chevy's Silverado sales still falls about 30-35 thousand short of F150's 811+ thousand!

Now if you want to take into consideration Heavy Duty's ... well ... then it's REALLY not a discussion! LoL I should have put this on the "discussion board" but didn't only because the article's marquee truck pic was an H-D! (best of the best ... I guess?)

Having owned a '95 Dodge, '97 F350, '98 Sierra, '99 F350, and '02 F150 ... I can certainly understand why Ford delivers the best trucks on the road!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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well if you can combine the GMC's with the Chevies, than you can combine the F150's with the superduties.

GMC and Chevy are TWO different brands, and TWO different vehicles. Silverado and Sierra. not a combined S-series if you will.
if thats the case, then the Honda Accord#'s should be added with the Acura sister car of that. the taurus's #'s added with the Sable's, the Explorer #'s with the mountaineer, the Caravan added with the Town and country and the voyager, etc. etc. But they don't, so quit trying to make GMC come out on top you GMC zealot you
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Right on!, Josh!

Even IF the Sierra (light duty GMC) and Silverado (light duty Chevy) were added together for total GM produced light duty trucks ... still would not surpass the F150 (light duty Ford)!!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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If GM is including the Avalanche in there Truck count then they need to adjust there numbers
 
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by LeeRandall
Sorry, GM fans! ... numbers tell it all!GMC sold only a little over 110,000 Sierras last year.
OK I looked at the link and couldn't find the GMC sales numbers. Where did you find that GMC only sold 110k units?

I'm not saying that it wrong, but it sure seems like a low number compared to Silverado sales.

As far as TOTAL truck sales, take a look at these numbers-http://www.pacific-audio.com/performance/messages/205698.html


I just received Decembers auto sales recap and GM trounces Ford in the truck department. The numbers are as follows:

GM
Dec. 2001 231,501
Dec. 2002 301,528

Ford
Dec. 2001 198,113
Dec. 2002 207,742


Year-to-date

GM
2001 2,631,535
2002 2,789,500

Ford
2001 2,476,109
2002 2,297,993



Like I said before, I'm not trying to start a brand war. I DO NOT CARE who sold what. I have a garage full of GM trucks, and like them all. I also own an HD 150 that I love to drive. I have the best of both worlds...
 

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