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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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Thumbs up Ford truck crowd turns out the vote !

Looks like Georgia will get it's first Republican governor in over 130 years. Maybe now we'll see the demise of the food tax for good. What cost Gov. Barnes was his refusal to allow the people of GA to vote for the state flag change.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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I thought this day would never come. I was talking to someone the other day and told them I have mixed emotions about a Republican winning the Governers race. On one hand it would be great for a change ... on the other with Tom Murphy being Speaker of the house NOTHING would get done.

Low and behold can you believe Tom Murphy lost??? Murphy has be Speaker of the House for 28 years. He was first elected as a state representative in 1960. He was considered the most powerful man in the state. Amazing

Roy Barnes reminded me too much of Al Gore ... Even though he went to my High School I never voted for him.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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Looks like some real changes for the state of Georgia! Wow!

Anyone heard from Dennis? Worried he might have had to be medicated. J/K
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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Don't be mean

 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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Actually, the candidate I supported for governor got elected. My father and I both gave the legal limit in campaign donations. She's the first Republican governor in something like 40 years. She's not your typical Republican, though. She's inclusive. She's a former Democrat. She's Jewish. She's, don't have a cow over this one, Pro Choice. She's brilliant when it comes to the budget, having won national recognition when she was a mayor. She watches out for the "little people" who don't have a voice. She was able to get legislation through a democratically controlled council. So, she knows how to get things done. She was clearly the best candidate and her views fit with mine 95% of the time.

The Democratic candidate is an A$$ who is a member of the "old boy network." I tend to vote against the "network" on principle.

As I said in another thread, if you vote only by party, you are an A$$ for doing so because the person you blindly elect may not be the best person to do what's best for everybody.

If you elect a good person that person, no matter the party, will do what's right for the people represented. That person will not blindly follow the party line. I also vote for people who will do the work for my community and not grandstand for the sake of headlines. My congressional delegation, all Democrats, are very liberal. Thing is, they have brought home more than their fair share of federal monies even when both houses were Republican controlled as they are again. I don't think much will change for my state.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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Too late, I've already had my cow.

But It's too frickin' late in the day and I'm too tired to
even start a running debate on murder. But hey,
tomorrow is another day.

Oh, by the way, it's nice to hear from you again
Dennis.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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Dennis,

I vote for ideas too, not a party. Never done anything blindly. And I definitely don't vote for personalities. Since you are so concerned with labeling "asses" I could be a real smart *** and say I don't vote for asses either and hense can't vote for Democrats......but I will be nice. :Þ
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 06:16 PM
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I voted for Gray Davis for Gov. in Calif. because he gave me 2 $1000 dollar scholarships for college... what did Bill Simon ever do for me?

btw this was the first election i voted in! ( im only 18)
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Hey Matt,
I am happy that you and Joe are on a first name basis. Glad to hear you voted .
 
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Screwfun: Yeah I couldn't believe Tom Murphy was defeated also. The "southern Democrats" in GA have awakened it appears to the "career" GA Democrats. We'll see how tough of a haul Sonny has in dealing with the Dem. controlled state legislature.

BWT: Yeah, noone saw the wins in the governors' race or US senate coming. Max Cleland was a two-faced senator. Saxby Chambliss seems to be a good man, not your typical career-politician. We'll see. I know I'll be watching as always. If he's not a fighter, he won't get my vote again.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:30 AM
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What happened with Max Cleland? I'm totally in the dark about why he lost his election. I thought he was popular in his state and would either die or retire.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:50 AM
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Dennis,

I vote for ideas too, not a party. Never done anything blindly. And I definitely don't vote for personalities. Since you are so concerned with labeling "asses" I could be a real smart *** and say I don't vote for asses either and hense can't vote for Democrats......but I will be nice. :Þ
Goes to show ya! You made my argument. Totally ignoring the fact that there are "bad eggs in every basket." That's the typical party line voter. I suppose if Ronald Reagan decided to run in 2004, you'd blindly vote for him?

I vote issues and performance. If a candidate hasn't kept their promises, they don't deserve my vote. If a candidate has shown a propensity for being selfish or belonging to the "Old Boy's Network," I rarely vote for them. If the candidate's ideology doesn't match mine closely (doesn't have to match perfectly), I don't vote for them. If a candidate is confrontational and only wants to grab headlines, I won't vote for them.

Right now, I'm afraid of who GW will nominate for the Supreme Court should the occassion arise. I don't think he has the ***** to NOT appoint somebody who's not on the extreme right. I don't mind right leaning or conservative justices. They can still look at the law objectively. Bork would have been a good justice.

I've always been a firm believer in the two party system because it affords us a safety net in the form of checks and balances. When the Executive branch, Senate, House, and the Court are all leaning one way, I can see a lot of bad things happening.

Eventually, things will go to pot and the balance will swing to the left as the country gets fed up. Then it will swing to the right again. Little good will come out of having the balance totally on either side because debate will be futile.

That is, unless, there are some independant minds on the majority's side. That's the only thing that will save us a lot of heartbreak. A few of the majority will have to side with the minority.

I just don't see good things coming out of D.C. over the next two years.

Oh, I wonder if talk about bombing Iraq and taking out Saddam will fade now that the election is over. I also wonder if we will attack Iraq months before the 2004 election? If it happens that way, I wonder if the people will see through it?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 08:03 AM
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I'll admit, I didn't pay that much attention to what was going on this year. But I did vote.

This year I cast my vote not for a specific canidate, or party. The votes that I cast weren't intended to put someone in office. This year I voted to end this rediculious circus of an election. What a freeking joke! All thoes stupid "campaign" adds, it's like the freeking Jerry Springer show! All this mud slinging. And this is supposed to sway our vote? I can't believe that this happens and people respond to such stupid adds. What are we, a nation of adolesence? We sure are treated that way.

This year I didn't vote Democrat, and I didn't vote Republican. So did I vote, you might ask? This year my vote says (though in a very small way) that I'm not pleased with this two party system. You mean there are other parties? Yes there is but we don't see the adds. We have more choices, but many people don't even know they exist. I'm not saying that the two major parties shouldn't be around. I'm saying that in a society this diverse,the two parties don't do a very good job at broad representation.

I think it's necessary to change the playing field. I'm so tired of this money buys a voice system. So the ones who get elected will represent the people who funded their campaign. Let's take the money out of the process and see who comes out on top. Perhaps then we could vote for someone based on what they plan on doing, instead of what their opponant(s) have done wrong.

I just can't believe that so many are content with this corrupt system. We are being ripped off. We are being silenced by our income, or should I say the lack of it. We are assumed ignorant, and have our taxes spent on things that are not in out best interest. This really sucks and there are a bunch of people, the majority, that keep this system up and running. Change it too much for the majority, so the majority votes to allow the government to continue to walk all over us.

OK, tell me how much of an idiot I am. I'm not that easily swayed though.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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What happened with Max Cleland? I'm totally in the dark about why he lost his election. I thought he was popular in his state and would either die or retire.
Max lost for several reasons. He did nothing to stand up for GA's interests that I or anyone else in this state can remember. Also, it got out this time that Cleland was a staunch supporter of partial birth abortions, and had voted in it's favor many times in Congress. There were a few issues with which he stood with GWB until the vote came up, then he would weasel back to the Dem. side. Totally destroyed him. It was a close race, I believe 52% Chambliss, 47% Cleland, and 1% Libertarian. "Any' loss by a Democrat in GA politics is huge. I would say him and Gov. Barnes' loss were the 2 biggest upsets in the elections ever in GA.
 
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