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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Any mechanics in the house that can help?

I am the lucky guy that has been asked to change a water pump and timing belt on a 1998 Plymouth Breeze 2.4L. Never worked on a Plymouth product and don't have any repair manuals for Plymouth. Is it a major pain to do this work on that vehicle or is it relatively easy.
I'd like to know torque specs and timing specs to get the job done. A few pages out of a repair manual would be of tremendous help.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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RUN man RUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN. Those things are 100% a PITA
 
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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did a Neon not too long ago, major PITA. You ever done major work like this on a similar car?

Electrical connectors have stupid locks that are a pain to take off and usually break
Valve cover has come off, make sure you have new spark plug tower seals
Harmonic balancer (crank pulley) has to come off.
The car probably needs motor mounts so quote those in too, and be ready for them to come off in several pieces.
Timing marks are easy to find and line up (good news)
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
did a Neon not too long ago, major PITA. You ever done major work like this on a similar car?

Electrical connectors have stupid locks that are a pain to take off and usually break
Valve cover has come off, make sure you have new spark plug tower seals
Harmonic balancer (crank pulley) has to come off.
The car probably needs motor mounts so quote those in too, and be ready for them to come off in several pieces.
Timing marks are easy to find and line up (good news)
Yes, i been working on vehicles in the past. Not a stranger to engine rebuilding either. Mostly fords and some gm's. Just no chrysler products.
Thanks for the heads-up. I found out, that I'd need a pacific crank pulley puller, that costs in excess of 350 $, (snap-on) which i don't have. I have a few pullers, but none will work. I am not buying it for somebody else. I'll never use it again. Right off the bat, there is a problem.
I put it to the owner and am waiting for a answer from her. Told her to find somebody that works for cheap. She has financial issues and i was going to do it for free, but not if i have to spend a lot of money out of my pocket.
 

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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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Nobody has that tool available for loan or rental?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
RUN man RUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN. Those things are 100% a PITA
Agreed.......
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Nobody has that tool available for loan or rental?
Nobody i know has that tool to borrow from and no place to rent specialty tools from, near me. Still waiting for a answer from her, as to which way she wants to go with this.
I can get the repair manual download for 12$. I don't mind doing that for her.
I'll wait and see what happens. Should know by the end of the weekend.
Thanks guys.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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My sister has a caravan I get forced into working on some times. Did the radiator in it last year and I dont know that they could make getting the radiator out of a car more difficult.
 
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Yes, i been working on vehicles in the past. Not a stranger to engine rebuilding either. Mostly fords and some gm's. Just no chrysler products.
Thanks for the heads-up. I found out, that I'd need a pacific crank pulley puller, that costs in excess of 350 $, (snap-on) which i don't have. I have a few pullers, but none will work. I am not buying it for somebody else. I'll never use it again. Right off the bat, there is a problem.
I put it to the owner and am waiting for a answer from her. Told her to find somebody that works for cheap. She has financial issues and i was going to do it for free, but not if i have to spend a lot of money out of my pocket.
If you have a big 3 jaw puller you can put the crank bolt in the threads a couple turns, and push against the bolt. Take your time and work the pulley off, and back the bolt out alternately.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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My sister has a caravan I get forced into working on some times. Did the radiator in it last year and I dont know that they could make getting the radiator out of a car more difficult.
2.2 cavaliers are a lot harder as well as kia sedona (mini van). Cavaliers it has to come out the bottom. Sedona's have about 14 bolts in very strategically annoying places because whom ever engineered those things figured that absolutely everything around the front of the vehicle should be bolted to the rad.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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If you have a big 3 jaw puller you can put the crank bolt in the threads a couple turns, and push against the bolt. Take your time and work the pulley off, and back the bolt out alternately.
I do have a big 3 jaw puller. Still waiting to find out if I'm the lucky one to do the job or not. I'll definitely try all the pullers i have, before buying jet another puller I'll never use again. But, i done that before....
Thanks for the advice.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
2.2 cavaliers are a lot harder as well as kia sedona (mini van). Cavaliers it has to come out the bottom. Sedona's have about 14 bolts in very strategically annoying places because whom ever engineered those things figured that absolutely everything around the front of the vehicle should be bolted to the rad.
Discovery has bolts from behind the front bumper going into the side tabs of the radiator (front to back)
 
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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I'm off the hook.
She has somebody else doing the work on her car. That was close....
Thanks for the help
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Had to do that on a Labaren and wanted to set it on fire.

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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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glad you're got away from it. Its not too bad if they're at least a paying customer
 
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