modern cars sought after in the future?

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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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Perhaps a Delorean would be in there, they are on the rare side now!!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Perhaps a Delorean would be in there, they are on the rare side now!!
but theyre older than 15 years which was the timeline in this thread
 
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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2009 Pontiac G8 GXP for sure.
That car will fall off the face of the earth like the rest did.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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It's a 400hp 6 speed sedan that runs a high 12 second quarter and built for only 2 years. I had a tweaked G8 GT (6.0 auto) that ran mid-upper 12's. Unfortunately, it was traded (along with my cummins) for my current ecoboost. I got tons of compliments with that car....
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Why does your post count always say 0. Are you some kind of forum ghost?

I know the specs on the G8. I just don't think it is a sought after car. Not many Pontiac enthusiast around anymore. Dying breed. Which... could ... make it more sought in later years?. Id rather invest in a 300 srt8 with the 6.1L 425hp hemi. Or the newer 6.4L? that puts out like 465hp. But I'm not much of a dodge fan.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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GM's EV1 will probably be a collector. If Fisker doesn't step it up a little. The few cars it's made may be collectible curiosities, too. Especially if electrics ever catch on.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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didnt GM buy/take back all the EV1's and destroy them though?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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didnt GM buy/take back all the EV1's and destroy them though?

Somebody will turn up with one one day. There definitely a few in museums, but somebody probably has a few in a private collection, too.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Toyz
Why does your post count always say 0. Are you some kind of forum ghost?

I know the specs on the G8. I just don't think it is a sought after car. Not many Pontiac enthusiast around anymore. Dying breed. Which... could ... make it more sought in later years?. Id rather invest in a 300 srt8 with the 6.1L 425hp hemi. Or the newer 6.4L? that puts out like 465hp. But I'm not much of a dodge fan.
0 post count means he only posts in the general discussion forum were posts dont add to the post count.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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Gotcha
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Toyz
Why does your post count always say 0. Are you some kind of forum ghost?

I know the specs on the G8. I just don't think it is a sought after car. Not many Pontiac enthusiast around anymore. Dying breed. Which... could ... make it more sought in later years?. Id rather invest in a 300 srt8 with the 6.1L 425hp hemi. Or the newer 6.4L? that puts out like 465hp. But I'm not much of a dodge fan.
Lol. Maybe because I'm a loser and my posts don't count. I usually don't have much to say, but finally had something with regard to this subject. Back under the bridge......
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Lol. Maybe because I'm a loser and my posts don't count. I usually don't have much to say, but finally had something with regard to this subject. Back under the bridge......
Lol. Stop in anytime.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Hard to tell, when I was in HS, a late 60s Camaro was not that big of a deal to own.
A Yenko was, but how limited was the production on them, with a $ 5K + price when new, they were made as a collector car right out of the gate.
5K in 1967 ( by rules of 7 ) would be like purchasing a new car today that costs $ 80K, so this example is already outside the range you set with < $ 50K.

'72 Dodge Daytona was not common, but previous MY chargers were common.

Went to school with a kid that had '65 Chevelle, it was a cool car, but he drove it every day, rain shine or snow with salt on the road, it was his only car not a collector item.

Nobody wanted these gas guzzlers when the oil embargo hit in the 70s, so they were laying around for a while.
People purchased Datsun B210s.
For those not old enough to recall, this is what Nissan used to be called back in the day in the US.

If the tree huggers keep getting their way, in 2030 owning a Viper or Vet is going to be a costly process.
Tags for this car could have a environmental tax on them that is going to be very expensive.
Look at how easy it was for the luxury tax to be passed.
Think the Ozone ver 2.0 argument would not be able to push a carbon tax on cars like this in the future that could cost $ 5,000.00 to plate the car ?
This is pure speculation and conjecture, but could have an impact on collecting mussel cars.
Think about how much those buying a 1970 Plymouth Superbird are going to be crying if this happens.

Any car costing < $ 50K is a mass produced car, and dwarfs the production numbers for a standard 1969 Camaro, so there are 10x+ of them made. A lot of them need to be trashed to dry up the supply on them, which could take decades longer.

Add to this, the only cars that would be worth collecting are going to be 70K + ( look at the cost of a high end 'vet these days ).

Actually $5k in 1967 is in the $33k range of today's dollars. You can look it up on an online inflation calculator.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Bill
Actually $5k in 1967 is in the $33k range of today's dollars. You can look it up on an online inflation calculator.
I was using the rules of 7 to estimate what 1 hour of labor using relative share of GDP as an indicator can buy.
This is a closer to true indicator vs Inflation rate alone.

Looking at what 1 hour of work can buy someone.
You need to take into account not only inflation for product purchased, but also items like unskilled wage levels and tax levels.
Inflation is for products purchased using after tax dollars, no tax impact included and not taking into account GDP.

The US had ~ 3.5% inflation rate, but IL had a 66% income tax increase as well as a state sales tax increase, and soon to be property tax rate hikes in C(r)ook ( and other blue ) County using a locked in home value from the high of the 3 year moving average.

What is the change in what 1 hour of labor a person in Chicago / Cook County can buy with that 1 hour of work from 2010 to 2011 ?
It is a lot more than 3.5% change that the fed says the inflation rate is.

$ 5,000 in 1967 in 2011 is worth :
32.6K using CPI
33.3 using unskilled wage levels
55.9K using nominal GDP per capita
87.3 using relative share of GDP
This is the reason SS or pensions do not use CPI or Inflation rates alone as the increase rate.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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whats the EV1?
 
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