So... I have a G22, G23, and G27, but now I am getting the itch for a .45. I was thinking about getting a .45GAP so all of my holsters would still work. I am now leaning towards a G36. Slimline .45AUTO. I like the idea of the baby glock similar to my G27, but with a .45 punch! It is a little thinner and should be all around easier to conceal. On the hip and with an ankle rig.

Any thoughts?

PS, if your going to suggest a different brand of pistol, then don't bother. I have other types of pistols as well...

 

Have you held a G36 and compared it to the G27?

I have a G21 (Full size .45 ) for work and a G26 (Subcompact 9mm) that I carry otherwise. I went with the G26 over .45 cal. subcompact's because it is much, much easier to conceal and much lighter.

I personally don't buy into the so called "stopping power" of a .45 versus another size round. Shot placement is more important than the size of the round (unless you shoot a cannon through someone).

But most importantly, you need can't ever have too many guns so go buy a G36, and a G28, and a new shotgun.

 

I've heard some negative things about the .45 GAP Glocks. Mostly with the rounds performance, price, and availability. I have to agree with nightingale about the .45 vs 9mm argument. Shot placement is more important that a slightly bigger and slower round.

 

i completely agree about the shot placement. however if your placement is off a bit, how would the damage by a .45 then compare to a 9mm. the .45 will do a lot more damage. while i would not want to get hit by either is it a fair comparison of getting him by a slow moving baseball bat vs a fast moving switch? switch being what we used to be able to hit kids with before the PC liberals got control.

i have a glock 21, 26 and 19. like them all. they are accurate and dependable. my favorite right now for carry would be my ruger LC9. not near as accurate as the 26 but it is small, light and has a safety with long trigger pull.

 

I don't have a 9mm, and don't want one. I do have an airweight 637 .38+P though.

 

Maybe get a 10 mm Glock? Heard 10 mm performs a lot better than .45 and 9 mm even though it's harder to come by than the others.

 

I never understood the .45 SD craze. I would prefer 9MM my self (as its my OC of choice) due to the number of extra rounds you can carry.

However, have you considered a .40? I have shot a S&W .40, its got a snap to it and kicks a bit harder than any 9MM I have shot, but not too bad.

If I was wanting a one stop shop, it would be a wheel gun in .357, otherwise the 9MM has far too many advantages.

A full sized 1911 is slim and not too hard to CC, but unless you have to CC why not just OC? The XD's are nice as well.
I always viewed CC as a offensive tactic as opposed to a more defensive approach of OC.

If you are carrying for SD, its more about control and well placed shots, doesn't matter if you pack a .454 if you can't hit with it.


If it has to be a glock, and it can't be 9MM, id get a .40. Its half ways between them, but a higher capacity.
All three rounds can and will put a man down, now if larger game is a issue (bears?) then a .357 is the smallest I would carry.

Personally if I carried 2 guns both CC it would be a snub .357 backup with a 9MM/.40 under a coat or vest.


Another important thing would be what kind of ammo and what weight as well as brand.
This is often overlooked, yet very important.

You must know the limitations of the gun, the ammo and your self.

 

^ Umm... I have 3 .40 Glocks. The G22, G23, and G27 that I mentioned earlier.

Punisher, I have thought a lot about that the 10mm, but the availability of ammo and the wider slide/receiver I don't think I care for.

 

G36 is a sweet piece ... never handled or fired one but with what your saying i think you'll be happy with it. Cant ever have too many!!

 

Muzzle energy = stopping power.

If that is what you want, the 10mm Glocks have the most stopping power. But the ammo is expensive and hard to find.

Here is the average muzzle energy of come ammo compared in ft-lbs:

9mm - 346 ft-lbs
.45 GAP - 365
.45 ACP - 377
.40 S&W - 438
.357 SIG - 483
10mm auto - 573

So the difference between the .45 and the 9mm is negligible.

 

The size of the wound cavity also contributes to the term "stopping power".

 

Are they wider? I would think that since the round is 1 mm smaller than .45 then it it be the same size or slimmer. But I guess that the higher chamber pressure would explain it.

As long as both rounds are JHP, the differences between the 2 are pretty much the same. Each round goes about delivering energy in their own way. .45 ACP is like a dump truck while 9 mm is like a Corvette (and 10 mm is like an F18 ).

 

Ha Ha! Like an F18...

The 10mm is the same width as the .45 pistols, with the exception of the G36. The G36 is a single stacked .45, and a thinner pistol than all my .40s. The GAP pistols are also single stacked, and match the size of the .40s.

 

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Shoot some steel with 9mm and .45 and tell me which one you think delivers the most energy. It's no contest. Of course, there is always more to it than one side of the story. Can't carry as many rounds, etc.