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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
I've got an old space invaders game I'm working on when I' in the mood (lazy).
It has a huge transformer in it, with many voltage legs coming off of it. I think I've isolated the problem to one of the voltage legs. I'm trying to figure out the amperage transformer I need to replace that leg with. I'm not expert on electronics, (plus this stuff is antique), do you have any suggestions?
Space Invaders ? Like Atari, -do you have Asteroids as well. Now that's old. I think those came about shortly after electricity was invented. Tank and Pong- also in the mix lol.

How did you narrow it down to the transformer ?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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By testing the individual legs with a VOHM.
The machine was built in 1979 I think.
It's an arcade console. It says 25Cents on the coin slot, but I rember them taking 50C.
I've seen them on Ebay (in better condition than mine) in the $800 price range. I remember when they were new they sold for about $1500.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
That answer makes perfect sense. A square wave has a lower amplitude than a sine wave for an equal RMS voltage.

- Jack
Right, and as someone else alluded, if you're measuring a type of wave that has less than the 50% duty cycle of a "pure" square wave, as in a variable-speed motor controller that is varying the pulse width between 0% and 50%, only a true-RMS measurement circuit is going to give you accurate readings of the delivered power. A "garden-variety" meter will read either too high or too low, depending on the type of measurement circuit the meter was built with.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
By testing the individual legs with a VOHM.
The machine was built in 1979 I think.
It's an arcade console. It says 25Cents on the coin slot, but I rember them taking 50C.
I've seen them on Ebay (in better condition than mine) in the $800 price range. I remember when they were new they sold for about $1500.
1979 ? Yea, then that's big enough for the bon-fire pit lol. I would have to follow the circuit, -figure out what the voltage is suppose to be on that particular rail first. Sometimes you can punch in the PCB # using google and locate the schematic. Yea, could be a bad transformer, it also could be other circuitry. Other than the transformer, look at the Mosfets, Diodes and Pico fuses as well.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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The Diode Bridges Tumba. They should have markings like this -

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Those can short on yuh..
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Fluke has just published a paper Why true-rms discussing how non-linear loads need a true-rms current clamp for accurate readings. http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techartic.../whyTueRMS.pdf It also includes application notes. Also, here's the main Newark Fluke page www.newark.com/fluke.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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Awesome.
 
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