Liar, liar, pants on fire... They ALL do it!
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Liar, liar, pants on fire... They ALL do it!
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What was that old TV program? "Who do you Trust?" in the late 50's.
What was that old TV program? "Who do you Trust?" in the late 50's.
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http://mediamatters.org/research/201102230006
What was that old TV program? "Who do you Trust?" in the late 50's.
What was that old TV program? "Who do you Trust?" in the late 50's.
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Doesn't matter who's behind it if it happened.
What about the Walker / Koch phone conversation. Terrible trick, but evidently it happened. Shows the extent of trickery from each side.
Admit it, Dems and Reps are all liars, none better/worse than the other. Beware giving blind trust.
"Mistake fixed...." laughable at the very least. That ring in your nose must hurt when they pull the rope as the lead you around.
What about the Walker / Koch phone conversation. Terrible trick, but evidently it happened. Shows the extent of trickery from each side.
Admit it, Dems and Reps are all liars, none better/worse than the other. Beware giving blind trust.
"Mistake fixed...." laughable at the very least. That ring in your nose must hurt when they pull the rope as the lead you around.
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Fox made a mistake. Whoa.
Media Matters is a Soros-funded front group.
We should be more concerned with who has access to the White House.
Not to mention, Walker only wants to end collective bargaining over benefits, not wages.
Media Matters is a Soros-funded front group.
We should be more concerned with who has access to the White House.
Not to mention, Walker only wants to end collective bargaining over benefits, not wages.
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Yep, all politicians lie. Dems just lie about thr wrong stuff and a lot more often. 
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Fox made a mistake. Whoa.
typical response, either way, agreed.. a non issue other than to prove to others that both sides do it.
Media Matters is a Soros-funded front group.
they didn't make up the spoken word, and it wasn't denied
We should be more concerned with who has access to the White House.
Agreed, at all times.
Not to mention, Walker only wants to end collective bargaining over benefits, not wages.
better to end ALL collective bargaining, BUT why wouldn't he take some of the pie offered and nibble away at the decades old process little by little? He gets the budget part up front now, and that's the biggest hurdle he has at the moment.
typical response, either way, agreed.. a non issue other than to prove to others that both sides do it.
Media Matters is a Soros-funded front group.
they didn't make up the spoken word, and it wasn't denied
We should be more concerned with who has access to the White House.
Agreed, at all times.
Not to mention, Walker only wants to end collective bargaining over benefits, not wages.
better to end ALL collective bargaining, BUT why wouldn't he take some of the pie offered and nibble away at the decades old process little by little? He gets the budget part up front now, and that's the biggest hurdle he has at the moment.
Sorry frank, I didn't mean to answer and make it look like it was all your quote. Lack of knowledge on my part.
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I really don't think that Walker has the intentions of ending all collective bargaining. If i'm wrong about that, everything the unions fought for years ago are now laws/policies anyway.
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DId Fox make a mistake with this, too?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smit...s-is-malarkey/
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smit...s-is-malarkey/
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The part of these "polls" you never see is What are the question(s) asked ?
People infer that the question is the same as the heading on the results, where the actual question(s) used, ask indirect or situational questions about the topic of {collective bargaining} where those actual words are never used.
Most of the time a person might never realize that the questions they got asked on the street were a part of that poll.
To the point that the person takes the no side of the poll, and their answers to the questions asked were answered on the yes side.
Poll taking is a big business, companies spend a bunch of money to ask questions and get the results they want.
This is not fabrication of the data collected ( tossing answers that contradict with the intended results ) but more so developing ( leading ) questions to produce the intended results.
Great thing about statistics, anyone can make the same set of numbers say different things.
Take the generic term 'average'.
This could be mean, median or average, but the 3 are not the same.
You can get 3 "averages" with the same list of numbers.
People infer that the question is the same as the heading on the results, where the actual question(s) used, ask indirect or situational questions about the topic of {collective bargaining} where those actual words are never used.
Most of the time a person might never realize that the questions they got asked on the street were a part of that poll.
To the point that the person takes the no side of the poll, and their answers to the questions asked were answered on the yes side.
Poll taking is a big business, companies spend a bunch of money to ask questions and get the results they want.
This is not fabrication of the data collected ( tossing answers that contradict with the intended results ) but more so developing ( leading ) questions to produce the intended results.
Great thing about statistics, anyone can make the same set of numbers say different things.
Take the generic term 'average'.
This could be mean, median or average, but the 3 are not the same.
You can get 3 "averages" with the same list of numbers.
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DId Fox make a mistake with this, too?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smit...s-is-malarkey/
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smit...s-is-malarkey/
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Malarkey!!! I've always like that word. Guess because it goes hand in hand with all of us on F150online.
Just so we all get to laugh, feel free to substitute MSNBC for FOX.
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From: Nordern Michigan....Just under da bridge eh!
Your comparing the Walker scam by a lib to the backwards polls fox posted? Thats on the complete opposite side of the world. One person commited a crime and the other a mistake. Altho I dont know why walker was so stupid as to have a conversation like that to someone he didn't even know over the phone....