You haven't watched G. Beck lately eh?

 

We need to go back to those times. People took personal responsibility for their actions and weren't so sensitive to everything!

 

Boy are you ever correct with that statement! Thanks.

 

No I haven't, what did I miss?

He sure is, what's your excuse?

 

You are a Batman character.

 

ohhh oooowww... ya' got me... a "Joker"... ha haa. You're such an intellectual.

Such an intellectual should have been able to read the thread title.

Come on.. I'm still waiting for your real intellect to show through... I know you can do it... try a little harder.

 

Amazing. I almost forgot how right President Regan was.

Interesting fast: If you play the speech backwards, you get Obama and the left.

 

Best line ever!!! Non scripted...unlike Odummy.

 

Actually we likely would have been better off had Carter been re-elected. The economy would have come back regardless. The Soviet Union would have fallen as the cracks were in it all the way back to the 60s. We wouldn't have thrown ourselves in the the great debt we did to create things that never worked like Star Wars.

VooDoo economics did what it promised in lowering costs and increasing corporate profits at the expense of American jobs and workers' salaries.

The debt hawks certainly can't justify taking the national debt from 900 billion to 2.8 trillion in 8 years, right?

Need I continue? Iran Contra? Either way he looks bad. Either he was guilty as sin and should have spent the rest of his life in prison or he was asleep at the wheel! Hmmmm!

Even his own son Ron Reagan Jr. said he was suffering from Alzheimer's toward the end of his presidency but was unaware of it.

I could go on and on! This is not to support Obummer in any way as he is a joke too!

 

If only Reagan's actions matched his rhetoric, we wouldn't be quite so far in debt today.

I always liked and admired him (voted for him in '84, Anderson -- remember him? -- in '80), but there was a serious disconnect between what he said, and what he did. Part of that was Congress, but much of it was his own policy choices.

It's funny -- people look at Ronnie as some sort of a saint of the Conservative movement, but he truly was not a fiscal conservative. We haven't had a fiscally conservative president since Ike.

 

I think it's funny hearing people say actions vs. rhetoric. As we find out, when new presidents take office, they are suddenly faced with the "real deal". All the information that they are not privy to prior to inauguration. It will generally explain the actions vs. rhetoric argument.

What made him popular was his idea of American Exceptionalism. Watch the speech again, and really listen to it. As was said... he "got it". He was elected at a time where the country as a whole was in the dumps, economically and emotionally. Anyone remember the "misery index"? It reached %21.98 under Carter. The Iranian hostage crisis of 444 days!!! Massive inflation %13.58... Tax rates of %70 @ $215k. COLD WAR?!?!

Reagan spoke of the individual, the real "heroes" the citizenry. Not how the government was the answer to everyone’s prayer. The immense power of the American spirit when government gets out of the way and allows the average American to prosper. No one is exclaiming he was a fiscal conservative, his budget was military based, his "Peace Through Strength" initiative. Again.. it's in the speech. I still remember all the star wars and “Ronnie Raygun” (how clever) quips and crap the man took, but it won the war. We outspent the USSR, bankrupted them, and actually became somewhat “friendly” with what was the single most threat to our survival. Thankfully the current generation doesn't know about living under the constant threat of nuclear war, or the constant "duck and cover" drills we had as children. That alone is priceless. Malign the man all you want, but as far as being a president that ACTULLY accomplish something, this cannot be denied. Those that detract from this, should be thankful they have the opportunity to do so.

This man had the ability to connect with the American people in a way that hasn't been seen since. You also know that he loved and honored his country. He made us feel proud to be Americans... sadly it can't be said about the current "president", who does nothing but apologize for being one.

 

Yes Reagan fed the idea of American exceptionalism but I can pump you up all that I want but sometimes rhetoric and reality don't mesh.

Trying to out spend the Soviet Union in arms was a waste. Most of those weapons are dated and unused (except those we sold to our enemies!). By the 80s the USSR wasn't building much of anything as their economy was in the dumps.

Most countries fall when their citizens are very unhappy. People weren't eating and they saw the riches of the world around them.

Gorby saw the crumbling building and bulldozed it. Even Obummer could have overseen this fall and taken credit for the bad guys defeat.

Could Reagan talk to people and get across to people? Absolutely and did a great job. Did Bush Sr? Nope! Did Clinton? Yes! Bush Jr? Yes and no...seemed genuine but kind of dumb (much like Carter with evil backers (Cheney/Rove)). Obama? Not really.

The ability to talk gets you farther in sales than a good product any day!

 

Have no problem seeing why Frank has you on ignore! Still trying to figure out why the others don't also. But coming from Chitcago (the #1 city in the US that would, by comparison, make the switch backs on a mountain road seem absolutely laser straight), no one should be surprised at you believing what comes out of Chicago politics.

 

Reagan was a Democrat. Just ask him. He commented on it once, if I recall correctly. He said something to the effect that he was a Democrat until the party moved farther to the left and left him behind. One thing in the speech he alluded to was that the government belongs to the people not the other way around. I can't tell you how many debates/arguments I've gotten into because the people see my possessions as belonging to the government and I only get to keep them because of the graciousness of the government. This is not the American idea. The America I grew up in had a government that was the dog of the people. It did what the people told it to, not the other way around. I do NOT owe the government anything. The government owes me, for taking the property I worked for. I could rant all day long on this topic, but I'll stop.

 

So K-Mac, you predicting when we will fall with so much love and happiness under Obama? I'd say we're headed toward failure at warp speed.