My generation scares me to death....
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06bluemeaniexl:
With all due respect, junior, let me give you a dose of REALITY.
1. My judgement on the youth of today is not just from 1 or 2 peoples actions, but THOUSANDS of youth in that age range that ACTED THE SAME WAY over many years. Therefore, the judgement was made based on OVERWHELMING SUPPORTING DATA, not just a 'one time only' episode.
2. With regards to my nephew: I will defend my actions with regard to him all the way to the United States Supreme Court as proper discipline of a child by showing him the consequenses of his actions using him as the test subject. Maybe you like getting your junk punched on a regular basis, but I DO NOT APPRECIATE IT !!!! And when I mention it to the child's mother and they DO NOTHING about it, I WILL TAKE THE MATTER INTO MY OWN HANDS AS FAR AS DISCIPLINE GOES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!! Maybe you can walk away with an all warm and fuzzy feeling and laugh it off, but when I get punched in the junk REPEATEDLY, regardless of who it is, I will only take so much, then it's payback time. The mother is lucky that was all I did; I was all ready to unload on her also. Remember, paybacks are heck, and I just gave my little nephew his payback, by showing him what it felt like. BTW, it is also easy to judge when it isn't you getting your junk punched repeatedly.
3. Blaming the education system for today's kids is like blaming forks and spoons for obesity and pencils for incorrectly spelled words. I placed the blame for today's youth right where it belongs: The touchy feely, belly rubbing, Johnny Sensitive educated eggheads that tell us how to raise our children "correctly", and that what was once called 'proper parenting' by using corporal punishment (or any punishment for that matter) is now wrong. These are the same people that think you can 'rehabilitate' criminals. I also blamed the brainwashed candy a$$ new parents that believe everything these educated eggheads tell them on raising thier kids, from giving the kid a timeout instead of real discipline, and giving into the kid. PROPER PARENTING means USING DISCIPLINE and NOT CAVING IN TO YOUR KIDS WANTS. NO WONDER today's kids feel 'entitled'; their parents cave into them, so they think the rest of the world should cave into them. Sorry, junior, the real world doesn't work that way. The earlier you learn that, the better your life will be.
Today's "Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child" pseudo parenting manure is just that: BULL MANURE!!!!!! I have seen enough of it, and continue to see the consequences on a daily basis. IT MAKES ME SICK !!!!
With all due respect, junior, let me give you a dose of REALITY.
1. My judgement on the youth of today is not just from 1 or 2 peoples actions, but THOUSANDS of youth in that age range that ACTED THE SAME WAY over many years. Therefore, the judgement was made based on OVERWHELMING SUPPORTING DATA, not just a 'one time only' episode.
2. With regards to my nephew: I will defend my actions with regard to him all the way to the United States Supreme Court as proper discipline of a child by showing him the consequenses of his actions using him as the test subject. Maybe you like getting your junk punched on a regular basis, but I DO NOT APPRECIATE IT !!!! And when I mention it to the child's mother and they DO NOTHING about it, I WILL TAKE THE MATTER INTO MY OWN HANDS AS FAR AS DISCIPLINE GOES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!! Maybe you can walk away with an all warm and fuzzy feeling and laugh it off, but when I get punched in the junk REPEATEDLY, regardless of who it is, I will only take so much, then it's payback time. The mother is lucky that was all I did; I was all ready to unload on her also. Remember, paybacks are heck, and I just gave my little nephew his payback, by showing him what it felt like. BTW, it is also easy to judge when it isn't you getting your junk punched repeatedly.
3. Blaming the education system for today's kids is like blaming forks and spoons for obesity and pencils for incorrectly spelled words. I placed the blame for today's youth right where it belongs: The touchy feely, belly rubbing, Johnny Sensitive educated eggheads that tell us how to raise our children "correctly", and that what was once called 'proper parenting' by using corporal punishment (or any punishment for that matter) is now wrong. These are the same people that think you can 'rehabilitate' criminals. I also blamed the brainwashed candy a$$ new parents that believe everything these educated eggheads tell them on raising thier kids, from giving the kid a timeout instead of real discipline, and giving into the kid. PROPER PARENTING means USING DISCIPLINE and NOT CAVING IN TO YOUR KIDS WANTS. NO WONDER today's kids feel 'entitled'; their parents cave into them, so they think the rest of the world should cave into them. Sorry, junior, the real world doesn't work that way. The earlier you learn that, the better your life will be.
Today's "Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child" pseudo parenting manure is just that: BULL MANURE!!!!!! I have seen enough of it, and continue to see the consequences on a daily basis. IT MAKES ME SICK !!!!
Secondly, I don't think kids should get everything they want. From an early age, I was taught that if I want something, I work for it and I should earn it. I have held a job since I was 14, I went to college (got my BS, working on my MS), I work full time, I pay my bills, I volunteer at the park district as a baseball coach, etc. However, despite all of that, I am still regarded as 'entitled' or 'childish' because someone has had bad experiences with peers of mine. I will agree that there are people in my age bracket that are as you say. However, I still find it extremely judgemental to lump them all into that group. There are people in every age bracket like that, I don't lump them all together, each individual is accountable for themselves. "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself"...
Another thing I was also taught from a young age is to mind my own business. I should worry about those things I can control and let those things that I can't be up to God. All I can do is hope to raise my son the right way. However to take either extreme (beating your child or not caring / disciplining your child) is the wrong way to go. Raising a kid should be a healthy medium of care and compassion as well as discipline. A child should be made to realize what they did wrong and why it was wrong. If it involves a slap of the hand or a swing of a belt, so be it, but to spank a child every time they do something wrong is not a solution either. However, alternately, time outs and such are not effective on their own.
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Also, I got a little fired up last night and would like to apologize if I offended anyone, especially bill_az or jggr. I just take offense when my age bracket is not given the respect they should be.
I understand that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch, but what I was trying to get across was that not all of us are as you say we are, in fact, I would be willing to bet that most of us aren't. Its just the ones like the Jersey Shore losers that get the publicity and fame, not the average ones of us struggling to make a living and support a family.
I understand that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch, but what I was trying to get across was that not all of us are as you say we are, in fact, I would be willing to bet that most of us aren't. Its just the ones like the Jersey Shore losers that get the publicity and fame, not the average ones of us struggling to make a living and support a family.
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Also, I got a little fired up last night and would like to apologize if I offended anyone, especially bill_az or jggr. I just take offense when my age bracket is not given the respect they should be.
I understand that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch, but what I was trying to get across was that not all of us are as you say we are, in fact, I would be willing to bet that most of us aren't. Its just the ones like the Jersey Shore losers that get the publicity and fame, not the average ones of us struggling to make a living and support a family.
I understand that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch, but what I was trying to get across was that not all of us are as you say we are, in fact, I would be willing to bet that most of us aren't. Its just the ones like the Jersey Shore losers that get the publicity and fame, not the average ones of us struggling to make a living and support a family.
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Over the last 6 months to a year we have hired 4 new people, 3 of them young oones under 25 and i have to light a fire under their asses to get them to do anything, it seems they want to sit and get paid to do very little and the 4th guy a 49 year old comes looking for work everytime he finishes something. Go figure. 2 of them young ones are gone and the 3rd one is next...
its also entirely possible that the older guy wised up earlier in life and learned that to succeed you have to work hard. Some people, especially young people who have never had a job, need to learn the harsh reality of what it means to work.
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There could be a direct coorelation between your company's hiring practices and the result regarding employee performance. But I wouldn't be entirely surprised, if it was just a few bad hires. Large companies go through 100's - 1000's of people per year. Alot of people are inherently lazy, regardless of age. The good ones keep their job for a long time, the bad ones are usually the ones looking for a job.
its also entirely possible that the older guy wised up earlier in life and learned that to succeed you have to work hard. Some people, especially young people who have never had a job, need to learn the harsh reality of what it means to work.
its also entirely possible that the older guy wised up earlier in life and learned that to succeed you have to work hard. Some people, especially young people who have never had a job, need to learn the harsh reality of what it means to work.
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These young folks know how to do the job they were trained well but they lack any kind of motivation. I hired them and trained them all. they all know what to do but they (the young ones) are always complaining with things like, how come that person does not have to do this and this person did not do this on the other shift or waaaaa i'm tired, waaaa your fired.... back to mom and dads basement. NOT ONE of the 3 had a place of their own they all lived at home sponging and driving mom or dads car to work... So yes it must be our hiring practices at work for sure. I also have a 29 year old woman that is amazing and works circles around some of these guys and never complains but man the pink and blue hair has me at a disadvantage but hey she does her job and does it well so be it.
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Also, I got a little fired up last night and would like to apologize if I offended anyone, especially bill_az or jggr. I just take offense when my age bracket is not given the respect they should be.
I understand that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch, but what I was trying to get across was that not all of us are as you say we are, in fact, I would be willing to bet that most of us aren't. Its just the ones like the Jersey Shore losers that get the publicity and fame, not the average ones of us struggling to make a living and support a family.
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Also, I got a little fired up last night and would like to apologize if I offended anyone, especially bill_az or jggr. I just take offense when my age bracket is not given the respect they should be.
I understand that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch, but what I was trying to get across was that not all of us are as you say we are, in fact, I would be willing to bet that most of us aren't. Its just the ones like the Jersey Shore losers that get the publicity and fame, not the average ones of us struggling to make a living and support a family.
As for being lumped in, I know exactly(is that spelled right?) how you feel. I grew up in the 60's and my generation is still screwed up.
By the time I was 20 I had a new truck, camper , and race bike- earned it all myself from hard work.
So instead of getting insulted b/c of the things said about your generation just let it roll and don't be a part of their crap (it doesn't sound like you are). Besides what I have found out in my many years, is when you are surrounded by slackers it just makes you look better.
Now that that is over we can find something else to argue over and insult each other, Im sure people here get a kick out of it!
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I'm good with it. I got fired up the other direction from you.
As for being lumped in, I know exactly(is that spelled right?) how you feel. I grew up in the 60's and my generation is still screwed up. By the time I was 20 I had a new truck, camper , and race bike- earned it all myself from hard work.
So instead of getting insulted b/c of the things said about your generation just let it roll and don't be a part of their crap (it doesn't sound like you are). Besides what I have found out in my many years, is when you are surrounded by slackers it just makes you look better.
Now that that is over we can find something else to argue over and insult each other, Im sure people here get a kick out of it!
As for being lumped in, I know exactly(is that spelled right?) how you feel. I grew up in the 60's and my generation is still screwed up.
By the time I was 20 I had a new truck, camper , and race bike- earned it all myself from hard work.So instead of getting insulted b/c of the things said about your generation just let it roll and don't be a part of their crap (it doesn't sound like you are). Besides what I have found out in my many years, is when you are surrounded by slackers it just makes you look better.
Now that that is over we can find something else to argue over and insult each other, Im sure people here get a kick out of it!
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You're good here also, 06bluemeaniexl.
I get fired up about the so called 'entitlement generation' and the parents who will not take responsibility for their and their children's actions and refuse to administer any discipline. Unfortunately, I also may have taken out my anger towards that group out on you and may have lumped you in with that group; if you feel that way, I apologize for that. It was not my intention to take it out on you, but it may have came off that way.
I get fired up about the so called 'entitlement generation' and the parents who will not take responsibility for their and their children's actions and refuse to administer any discipline. Unfortunately, I also may have taken out my anger towards that group out on you and may have lumped you in with that group; if you feel that way, I apologize for that. It was not my intention to take it out on you, but it may have came off that way.
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You're good here also, 06bluemeaniexl.
I get fired up about the so called 'entitlement generation' and the parents who will not take responsibility for their and their children's actions and refuse to administer any discipline. Unfortunately, I also may have taken out my anger towards that group out on you and may have lumped you in with that group; if you feel that way, I apologize for that. It was not my intention to take it out on you, but it may have came off that way.
I get fired up about the so called 'entitlement generation' and the parents who will not take responsibility for their and their children's actions and refuse to administer any discipline. Unfortunately, I also may have taken out my anger towards that group out on you and may have lumped you in with that group; if you feel that way, I apologize for that. It was not my intention to take it out on you, but it may have came off that way.
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I would also like to apologize, I got so worked up and angry I didn't even realize the person I was quoting was me. My Generation had too much discipline. We didn't get Time-Out or even the Belt. My Dad just took us out in the back yard and hit us in the head with a brick. Oh, he was fair about it. He would give us ten steps before he would chuck it and we could zig-zag or make any jive move we wanted but it was a small yard and it was fenced.
My Dad had an arm let me tell ya.
My Dad had an arm let me tell ya.
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no the difference is now they have money and probably different friends who would look down on scolding a child with a smack.
i think parents have a lot to do with kids being like they are. so many parents who say I hated when my dad did this or that so i won't do it. never realizing that was what made them who they are. now junior doesn't have the same upbringing.
i have two kids in your generation. one is now a disabled vet and the other is trying to start his own business at 19 years old. both of them have known the same pains i knew as a child. not bad just strict.
the one thing i dislike the most with modern schools and parents is the disdain in their voice when a child says he wants to join the military. i can't count the number of time parents and teachers told my oldest son I'm sorry to hear that when he mentioned he was joining the military.
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Try being in High School. I feel like i have my head on right, work two jobs, school, bills. Regardless i have a lot of friends, i see this everyday. Lack of parenting. I know my mom and dad beat my ***. I will beat my kids ***'. I am a strong Republican. I dont believe in handouts. Publix is a huge shopping market down here, i work their evenings part time and i see who does and does not get handouts, WIC and food stamps. Its horrible.
Its really sad when there are young men like you and most of the 20 somethings on this site.
Stand up people that actually believe in something good. But there is always 4 people to every one good person that does dumb crap that outshine us good people in the generation.
And Patman
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