3 things about Muslims you might not know
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Just as orders to kill given by God in the OT no longer apply to most Christians, the same can be said of most Muslims, and instructions to bring violence in the Koran. It works both ways.
I know the "2-way street" isn't very popular with you, hence the reason you are so closed minded and unreasonable.
As far as McVeigh, he was born and raised Catholic, and never denounced it. He said himself that he never really picked it up again after the military, but still held on to the core beliefs.
With that being said, me saying that McVeigh represents Christians is no different than you saying that Muslim extremists represent all Muslims.
You guys love painting everyone with the same brush, but it doesn't quite feel so good when you're treated the same way does it?
The short of it is that Muslmis are not your enemy, it's the Muslim Extremists which are; and why you refuse to admit that is the crux of the problem.
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Hatred only breeds hate and contempt.
What did you think of the wacko preacher Frank who was threatening to burn the Qur'an? Were you secretly loving it? It's funny how when all this was going on, it was quiet as a church mouse around here, none of the so called Christians came out and said anything about this guy, but as soon as any Muslim so much as passes wind, 5 people will start a thread about it voicing their condemnation. (and then blame Obama)
Funny how that works.
I don't hate you Frank, and my disdain isn't just for your religion, it is for all of them, the sooner you realize what a crock it is, the sooner you will free your mind and start living your life for youself. Right now you are under a spell and you don't realize it.
I will pray for you.
I know the "2-way street" isn't very popular with you, hence the reason you are so closed minded and unreasonable.
As far as McVeigh, he was born and raised Catholic, and never denounced it. He said himself that he never really picked it up again after the military, but still held on to the core beliefs.
With that being said, me saying that McVeigh represents Christians is no different than you saying that Muslim extremists represent all Muslims.
You guys love painting everyone with the same brush, but it doesn't quite feel so good when you're treated the same way does it?
The short of it is that Muslmis are not your enemy, it's the Muslim Extremists which are; and why you refuse to admit that is the crux of the problem.
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Hatred only breeds hate and contempt.
What did you think of the wacko preacher Frank who was threatening to burn the Qur'an? Were you secretly loving it? It's funny how when all this was going on, it was quiet as a church mouse around here, none of the so called Christians came out and said anything about this guy, but as soon as any Muslim so much as passes wind, 5 people will start a thread about it voicing their condemnation. (and then blame Obama)
Funny how that works.
I don't hate you Frank, and my disdain isn't just for your religion, it is for all of them, the sooner you realize what a crock it is, the sooner you will free your mind and start living your life for youself. Right now you are under a spell and you don't realize it.
I will pray for you.
Reread my posts about Mcveigh. He died "agnostic". Any other representation is false, and you know it.
Actually, I wasn't happy to see the Koran burned. I was just laughing at Obama since he actually made the mistake of trying to interfere when his administration did nothing to stop this: http://articles.cnn.com/2009-05-20/w...el?_s=PM:WORLD
Someday Habs, you'll understand that it was true Muslims that killed 3000 people on 9/11/01. They did precisely what their 'holy book' tells them to do and that is "kill infidels" who will "not be converted." Look for yourself.
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Lol at all the non-Bible thumpers
and where do you get your numbers on islam being the largest religion?
I'm betting strongly that Christianity is the largest religion on earth. I can't prove it but I would imagine that it is quite a bit bigger than islam.
and where do you get your numbers on islam being the largest religion?
I'm betting strongly that Christianity is the largest religion on earth. I can't prove it but I would imagine that it is quite a bit bigger than islam.
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When's the last time a Christian said, "Jesus loves me." right before pulling the cord on his homocide-bomb?
Modern Christianity is not comparable to modern Islam. Until they clean up their own house, I don't think they should be held at their word for anything. Hell, when's the last time anyone besides a Muslim celebrated the death of 3000 innocents? Murdered someone for drawing an insulting picture in reference to their faith? Chopped off the head of a westerner on video to send a message? The list goes on. I'm not a fan of any religion, but Muslims are the only ones I feel threatened by... And I feel I have good cause. Even my Muslim acquaintances show an "understanding" for what drives extremists. They share their views on many issues, if not their tactics and behavior... This is why Islamic terrorists are not short of contributors to their cause. A billion Muslims can turn out a lot of cash, even if only a small number of them ever know where the money goes from their contribution to Islamic charities.
Modern Christianity is not comparable to modern Islam. Until they clean up their own house, I don't think they should be held at their word for anything. Hell, when's the last time anyone besides a Muslim celebrated the death of 3000 innocents? Murdered someone for drawing an insulting picture in reference to their faith? Chopped off the head of a westerner on video to send a message? The list goes on. I'm not a fan of any religion, but Muslims are the only ones I feel threatened by... And I feel I have good cause. Even my Muslim acquaintances show an "understanding" for what drives extremists. They share their views on many issues, if not their tactics and behavior... This is why Islamic terrorists are not short of contributors to their cause. A billion Muslims can turn out a lot of cash, even if only a small number of them ever know where the money goes from their contribution to Islamic charities.
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I'm staying out of this one but there is a new testament. Not to say the ot has nothging goodf in it but the ot doesn't apply to christians today. Imagine if we went around stoning ppl. God's grace/jesus dying for the sins of man. is sufficent for any sin.
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It was not the first time have viewed it; it was indeed well done. However, I have to wonder about the credentials of the people who made it? The director, the writers, etc---I know nothing about them. The credentials are of the utmost importance. While they may be factual, they also may be presenting propaganda. In the immortal words of your Ronald Reagan,
"Trust, yet verify." I would like the ideas in the video to be verified.
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"Trust, yet verify." I would like the ideas in the video to be verified.
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...Habibi and the rest of the non-believers:
You cannot put Christianity and islam on the same level. They are not even in the same universe as far as their belief structure. They're not equal. islam doesn't hold a candle to Christianity. Again, the only way to achieve salvation is by professing that Jesus came as a man and suffered as a man to pay for our sinful nature. All we have to do is acknowledge this; that's it. Even Adolf Hitler, laying on his deathbed, could have been saved, because what happens on this earth is but a blink in time compared to eternity. 10 million billion years from now, will you be singing praises to God, or will you be tormented in the pit of flame, day and night?
This isn't meant to scare you; it's simply reality, and God gives us the right to choose.
You cannot put Christianity and islam on the same level. They are not even in the same universe as far as their belief structure. They're not equal. islam doesn't hold a candle to Christianity. Again, the only way to achieve salvation is by professing that Jesus came as a man and suffered as a man to pay for our sinful nature. All we have to do is acknowledge this; that's it. Even Adolf Hitler, laying on his deathbed, could have been saved, because what happens on this earth is but a blink in time compared to eternity. 10 million billion years from now, will you be singing praises to God, or will you be tormented in the pit of flame, day and night?
This isn't meant to scare you; it's simply reality, and God gives us the right to choose.
The fact that there is no way in a Christians mind to leave me to believe as I will and them to believe as they might.
With Christians it's they are right, and whatever you believe different is wrong. Now I normally don't have a problem with that but Christians are always pompus boob's about it and I find, from once serving them at every Sunday brunch, that in general they are just boob's about everything. Once a Christian knows you don't believe, they talk down their nose at you and stand taller with an ego about their beliefs. Most other religions will change the subject and move on without question.
I only intend, for this post, to get across that I don't worry to much about your generalizations of another religion, because I, a "non-believer", generalize you Christians as well.
Not to say they(Christians) are all bad, but I have yet to meet one that isn't. I HAVE however, met many non-terrorist and very pleasant muslims.
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First your view of Christians is skewed, and second, we deal with replies from people like you every day.
Heck, I was heckled for 20 minutes earlier today by one of our VP's because he saw a Bible sitting in my truck seat on the way to the airport. He wouldnt quit cussing and calling me a wuss for being a Christian.
But I guess you're right...Christians are always the '*****'....
Heck, I was heckled for 20 minutes earlier today by one of our VP's because he saw a Bible sitting in my truck seat on the way to the airport. He wouldnt quit cussing and calling me a wuss for being a Christian.
But I guess you're right...Christians are always the '*****'....
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^"most of the world can't stand Christians."
Your right, the bible says that.
Being a Christian isn't easy.
The bible says the world will persecute Christians.
songs, movies, media, everyday people, etc etc. You can obviously see it.
John 15:18-20
18 If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they obeyed my word, they will obey yours too.
Its hard not to argue but it makes Christians look bad because the "world" expects us to be perfect. I do it all the time actually. (The bible says man's nature is corrupt) We can just present the truth. God will do his will in thier lives.
I'm over a thousand posts!!!
Your right, the bible says that.
Being a Christian isn't easy.
The bible says the world will persecute Christians.
songs, movies, media, everyday people, etc etc. You can obviously see it.
John 15:18-20
18 If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they obeyed my word, they will obey yours too.
Its hard not to argue but it makes Christians look bad because the "world" expects us to be perfect. I do it all the time actually. (The bible says man's nature is corrupt) We can just present the truth. God will do his will in thier lives.
I'm over a thousand posts!!!
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^"most of the world can't stand Christians."
Your right, the bible says that.
Being a Christian isn't easy.
The bible says the world will persecute Christians.
songs, movies, media, everyday people, etc etc. You can obviously see it.
John 15:18-20
18 If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they obeyed my word, they will obey yours too.
Its hard not to argue but it makes Christians look bad because the "world" expects us to be perfect. I do it all the time actually. (The bible says man's nature is corrupt) We can just present the truth. God will do his will in thier lives.
I'm over a thousand posts!!!
Your right, the bible says that.
Being a Christian isn't easy.
The bible says the world will persecute Christians.
songs, movies, media, everyday people, etc etc. You can obviously see it.
John 15:18-20
18 If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they obeyed my word, they will obey yours too.
Its hard not to argue but it makes Christians look bad because the "world" expects us to be perfect. I do it all the time actually. (The bible says man's nature is corrupt) We can just present the truth. God will do his will in thier lives.
I'm over a thousand posts!!!
Nothing is more wicked than hating someone for no good reason. Yet the world bows to Muslim murderers like Assad and terrorist organizations to try to appease them.
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Christian's are far too self-righteous to ever take their own life.
It is much more convenient to shoot an abortion doctor in the parking lot (all in the name of God of course), this way they can just tell God how sorry they are after the fact, and Heaven is still there for them.
I like how you can do whatever, be the biggest murderer in history, then all your sins are quickly 'whisked away', like it never happened.
Maybe signing up isnt such a bad idea.
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Cmon Odin,
Christian's are far too self-righteous to ever take their own life.
It is much more convenient to shoot an abortion doctor in the parking lot (all in the name of God of course), this way they can just tell God how sorry they are after the fact, and Heaven is still there for them.
I like how you can do whatever, be the biggest murderer in history, then all your sins are quickly 'whisked away', like it never happened.
Maybe signing up isnt such a bad idea.
Christian's are far too self-righteous to ever take their own life.
It is much more convenient to shoot an abortion doctor in the parking lot (all in the name of God of course), this way they can just tell God how sorry they are after the fact, and Heaven is still there for them.
I like how you can do whatever, be the biggest murderer in history, then all your sins are quickly 'whisked away', like it never happened.
Maybe signing up isnt such a bad idea.
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From: Nordern Michigan....Just under da bridge eh!
What about the Catholics? 
We must just be that bad *** that no one puts us in arguments
That said, I wouldnt consider myself a person that practices religion tho because I havent been to church in years
We must just be that bad *** that no one puts us in arguments
That said, I wouldnt consider myself a person that practices religion tho because I havent been to church in years
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Cmon Odin,
Christian's are far too self-righteous to ever take their own life.
It is much more convenient to shoot an abortion doctor in the parking lot (all in the name of God of course), this way they can just tell God how sorry they are after the fact, and Heaven is still there for them.
I like how you can do whatever, be the biggest murderer in history, then all your sins are quickly 'whisked away', like it never happened.
Maybe signing up isnt such a bad idea.
Christian's are far too self-righteous to ever take their own life.
It is much more convenient to shoot an abortion doctor in the parking lot (all in the name of God of course), this way they can just tell God how sorry they are after the fact, and Heaven is still there for them.
I like how you can do whatever, be the biggest murderer in history, then all your sins are quickly 'whisked away', like it never happened.
Maybe signing up isnt such a bad idea.
I don't like having Christianity shoved in my face either, but at least in this Christian majority country I live in, I have a right to tell them to stick it. I'm not saying that every Muslim you run into in an Islamic state is going to cut your head off, and send a taping of it to Al Jazeera, but your risk is definitely higher by orders of magnitude.
