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From: Graham TX
You are absolutely correct, I hope he is not planing on a hardcore gaming rig here because he will be disappointed. They will play them just not on max settings, some people that wont bother, me I would loose my mind if I built a new computer and couldn't max out everything I wanted to run.
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The last known heat issue with AMD chips was their Socket A line (circa 2003). AMD's chips are designed to run at a lower wattage. Intel was plagued with heat issues until recently. I think the 'i' series chips are the first series to consistently perform under 60C with stock heatsink. However, modern AMD setups are barely going to break the 35C mark, unless you screw up installing the chip. Also, AMD chips do not burn out the socket, they will shut the system off if they reach 70C. You would need to reach 120C to burn out a Phenom II. That was an Intel design issue with the P4 that used to smoke the CPU and Mobo...
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From: Mount Airy,MD
The last known heat issue with AMD chips was their Socket A line (circa 2003). AMD's chips are designed to run at a lower wattage. Intel was plagued with heat issues until recently. I think the 'i' series chips are the first series to consistently perform under 60C with stock heatsink. However, modern AMD setups are barely going to break the 35C mark, unless you screw up installing the chip. Also, AMD chips do not burn out the socket, they will shut the system off if they reach 70C. You would need to reach 120C to burn out a Phenom II. That was an Intel design issue with the P4 that used to smoke the CPU and Mobo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqu9qs4blZQ
That is one of the videos I saw in the past. In another they removed the chip after this was done and showed the damage to the MB. I assume AMD fixed this, but if you do a search on Intel or AMD overheat, you will find that both can have the problems. I know Intel has had overheat protection for years, where the processor ill slow down and stop before allowing damage to be done.
Video was done by Tom's Hardware.
Last edited by kingfish51; Sep 12, 2010 at 07:05 AM.
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that video is with CPUs that are from 2002 / 2003ish... The AMD socket 462 is old... older than 754 and 939, which came out in late 2003 or 2004 I believe... the Athlon 64 design corrected those flaws (socket 754 / 939)...
also, anytime you run your CPU with out a heatsink, you are asking to kill the chip.
also, anytime you run your CPU with out a heatsink, you are asking to kill the chip.
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As I stated before, it was in the past and I did not know if AMD fixed the problem. But it did occur, and yes it was a test of how they handled overheating so the heatsink was removed. It does not take a lot to not have a properly seated heatsink, so this can occur anytime if you are not careful.
That being said, the OP stated he was going with Intel, so the argument is moot.
That being said, the OP stated he was going with Intel, so the argument is moot.
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As I stated before, it was in the past and I did not know if AMD fixed the problem. But it did occur, and yes it was a test of how they handled overheating so the heatsink was removed. It does not take a lot to not have a properly seated heatsink, so this can occur anytime if you are not careful.
That being said, the OP stated he was going with Intel, so the argument is moot.
That being said, the OP stated he was going with Intel, so the argument is moot.
