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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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2011 Ford Explorer

I think it looks pretty good! (Don't know how to post a pic here) No truck based platform anymore and Ford promises 20-30% better MPG than the old model too, depending on the engine you choose. Ford really is putting out some good products right now.

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Long before SUVs drove like cars and appeared in nearly every driveway, the vehicles were built like trucks and used by people who plied the backcountry. Then Ford Motor Co. rolled out its Explorer and forever altered the U.S. auto market.

Although it could still handle rough terrain, the Explorer came with many of the creature comforts of a sedan — including designer themes such as the Eddie Bauer edition — and the interior space of a minivan. Despite a safety scare involving Firestone tires the vehicles came equipped with, it turned into a sales behemoth and spawned the SUV revolution.

But a bevy of new competitors and rising gas prices whittled Explorer sales to just a fraction of their once industry-dominating peak, sending Ford back to the drawing boards to rethink the vehicle from the ground up for the first time since its launch 20 years ago.
Ford is unveiling the results of that redesign Monday — a lighter, more fuel-efficient SUV, which like much of its modern competition is no longer built on the base of a truck.

"It is a pivotal vehicle for Ford right now, especially at a time when there is so much competition and people are worried about price and fuel economy," said Brandy Schaffels, an analyst at auto information company TrueCar.com.

"It is smoother and more refined than in the past and much less boxy than the previous version," she said.

The company doesn't expect a return to the glory days. Explorer sales peaked in 2000 at 445,157 vehicles and accounted for 13.1% of Ford sales, but barely surpassed 50,000 last year. The Dearborn, Mich., automaker believes the new version will have brisk sales.

"We have 4 million Explorers on the road today, and 140,000 Explorer owners come back every year to buy a new vehicle. We are hoping they will come into our showroom and take a look," said Amy Marentic, a Ford marketing manager.

Marentic wants to grab back customers such as Jerry Dale of North Hollywood. The 51-year-old, single television writer owned a 2000 Explorer for six years until it was totaled in an accident four years ago. He replaced it with the smaller Subaru Forester.

He's thinking about the Explorer again, enticed by reports that the new version will get 20% to 30% better mileage than the current model, depending on the engine option.

Like most of the buyers who turned the Explorer into an automotive icon, Dale said he didn't have much need for the rugged capabilities of the vehicle, including the ability to tow a boat.

"I am an urban dweller. I buy the vehicle because I like the look and the feel," he said. "It is an emotional decision." But for Ford to get his business, "it has to show some evolution from the old Explorer. I want people to notice it is a new car," Dale said.

In its redesign, Ford abandoned the old construction method of bolting the body to a truck frame to improve handling and fuel economy. The SUV now has the unibody construction of competitors such as the Honda Pilot and Toyota Highlander — the chassis and much of the body of the vehicle are one unit.

The Explorer now comes as a front-wheel or four-wheel-drive vehicle. The old rear-wheel drive is gone. The new engines, both a 3.5-liter V-6 and an optional turbocharged four-cylinder, use less gas but have similar power to the previous offerings.

Ford is pitching a variety of improvements to the vehicle's stability. Additionally, one safety option is inflatable seat belts in the second-row seats that don't use explosives and deploy slower than conventional airbags. The belts spread crash forces across a wider surface than a traditional seat belt, a factor that helps protect passengers, especially children.

The emphasis on safety is designed to alleviate any lingering concerns from earlier in the decade when the vehicle suffered from tire blowouts and rollovers that caused several hundred fatal accidents. The new Explorer is expected to hit showrooms in December or early next year. The exact price has not been released, but Ford officials have hinted that it will start around $28,000 to $30,000.

The Explorer's challenge will be to get shoppers' attention in a sea of competition, even from Ford itself, said Karl Brauer, an analyst at Edmunds.com.

"There are just a huge number of these type of vehicles on the market, including Ford's Edge and the Ford Flex," Brauer said. "At the end of the day they are all car-based SUVs with front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive available and the same or similar drivetrains. There is just a lot of overlap."
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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I think it looks pretty good. I'm not happy about it getting away from it's "real" truck roots...perimeter frame, proper drivetrain layout, etc. I suppose close to 100% of owners of the previous generations never used those capabilities though...myself included, in my wife's 2006.

That said vehicles need to change with the times to keep selling and I think a simple re-hash of the previous design would have kept dwindling in sales for the nameplate unless they figured out a way to do so and still increase fuel mpg and interior space.

Personally I just couldn't drive something that I knew was based on a FWD car platform, complete with sideways engine.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Well it looks super cool in that one picture. I just dont know about a FWD platform.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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I think it looks good too. However, where does it fit? Ford has the Escape, Edge and Flex. Why does it need a FWD Explorer too? There just aren't any options anymore for SUVs that pull things etc. unless you want to get a full sized one. In that case, why not just get a F-150 Supercrew?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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It should fit in between the Escape and the Expedition.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Looks alot like a Ford Edge to me.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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I like it alot. Big improvement over last years models. On fwd it seems to be better on ice and snow then rwd. So we will have to wait and see. I bet it be a hit for fomoco.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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It will still be available in 4WD too so if someone needs it for something "truck-like" they can still use it for that. But like XLT-FX4 said the majority of owners don't use them for truck stuff anyway.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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I really like it, especially when compared to previous generation like the one that my parents have. I really dont like the interior of theirs, seems to cheaply finished and I really HATE the seats (Leather seems to hard/not plush like the ones in my truck). I think that this will go great in Ford's lineup. This will fit perfectly in between the Edge/Escape size and the Expedition. This will be a prefect car for my wife to get in indstead of the Toyota Highlander that she had been telling me she wants.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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wonder what the next expedition will look like. I like were ford is going with there style. Lincoln is next and bet its will be killer in its segment.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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More info:

The new Explorer will have less towing capacity than the outgoing model -- 5,000 pounds, versus 7,115 pounds

The new Explorer has a 2.0-liter, four-cylinder EcoBoost engine, which has the power of a V-6 -- 237 horsepower -- with better fuel economy. The government hasn't issued fuel economy ratings, but Derrick Kuzak, head of global product development at Ford, said the engine would be similar to a 2010 Toyota Camry sedan with a V-6 engine. That Camry gets 19 miles per gallon in the city and 28 on the highway.

The Explorer also has a 3.7-liter V-6 that gets 290 horsepower -- the same as the current V-8 -- and 20 percent better fuel economy than the outgoing V-6.
MPG as good as a Camry with the EcoBoost engine and plenty of towing power for everyday needs with the V6. Good job Ford
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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i have always like the explorer, have owned two of them. One was a 93 limited and the other was a 01 xlt. Both were awesome vehicles. I like the new explorer it should do real good
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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yah i cant see a point of having a fat edge. so its based on the taurus then?

what happens to the explorer sport trac? That get the unibody FWD treatment too, and then whats next a FWD ranger
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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I wouldnt be suprised if Ford got rid of one of its new platformss for the new Explorer.

I mean look at the Taurus ford got rid of it for the Fivehundred which was bassically the same car, But people that know nothing about cars are just stressin. Where did the Taurus go!?!?! They arent going to buy a 500 after they have had Taurus's since they came out. They'll switch brands and find something new. It was the number one selling car in Fords line why did they get rid of it? Well they asked themselfs that too and brought it back. Now sales of it are back too.

Sometimes you cant get rid of a good thing you just need to tweak it to make it more appealing to the consumer. Most of the people that buy cars dont know a damn thing about them. They just buy what they trust by the model name. Like Explorer. They'll continue to buy this just because it has the name Explorer on it.

I think Ford will get rid of the Flex now or mabey the edge. But one will go thats for sure. Ill give it two years
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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I love the look of that thing -- I'd buy that in a heartbeat over the Flex!

However, one feature of the Flex I'd like to see carried over to the new Explorer is the "two tone" roof option -- I think that Explorer would look awesome in a metallic gray finish with a nice white C-pillar and roof line.....
 
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