Post what you paid Uncle Sam Today!
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From: DFW Texas
I Paid $10300 in federal taxes threw payroll withholding. I am receiving 300 bucks back. so I Paid 10k in federal taxes last year. I estimate I paid that amount in other taxes and fees to local and state Govt. and medicare and social securiy withholding.
Hell maybe more with all the bourbon I drink! (Liquor tax and all!) So over 20k. But I made 5 times that in gross income!
And I am ok with that! When I was dirt poor, medicare (or medicaid?) paid 100% of my daughters birth and then 4 yrs later her emergency surgery. Today she is a 20 yr old college student working herself thru college. And one day she will be a paying her share of taxes.
I drive on dang nice roads, stay in dang nice national campgrounds and on and on. We have some nice stuff here in the USA that is paid for by our taxes. I dont mind paying my share and making up for what I sucked off and or will suck off others to one time or another.
YES we could reduce waist and BS spending but until you walk in a mans shoes in Somalia or some other 5th world country you don't realize how nice we have it.
I put it down as paying it forward.
but damn would have been nice to have that 10k to add to the truck I just bought!
Hell maybe more with all the bourbon I drink! (Liquor tax and all!) So over 20k. But I made 5 times that in gross income!
And I am ok with that! When I was dirt poor, medicare (or medicaid?) paid 100% of my daughters birth and then 4 yrs later her emergency surgery. Today she is a 20 yr old college student working herself thru college. And one day she will be a paying her share of taxes.
I drive on dang nice roads, stay in dang nice national campgrounds and on and on. We have some nice stuff here in the USA that is paid for by our taxes. I dont mind paying my share and making up for what I sucked off and or will suck off others to one time or another.
YES we could reduce waist and BS spending but until you walk in a mans shoes in Somalia or some other 5th world country you don't realize how nice we have it.
I put it down as paying it forward.
but damn would have been nice to have that 10k to add to the truck I just bought!
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From: Cape Coral, Florida
JK007,
You may be done, and I would be too if my ammo was gone, and all I had left to lob was empty shells. I'm far from done presenting facts.
It seems you may be unaware (or ignorant) of what exactly the word "ignorant" means. I know from personal experience that this one word can be a tender box because it is so often misunderstood. Let's consult a dictionary:
From Merriam-Webster
I trust that any reasonable person would understand a dictionary entry. Now that we've cleared that up, let us continue with the facts. The same fact which you you declare is not a fact, but which you cannot refute with any source because that would be impossible. That's the beauty of facts. They stand on their own. Here's my case:
Fact: An income tax refund is the government returning your income dollars withheld or paid in excess of tax liability without an interest payment.
Yes, those are my own words. I pulled them from my head just now. I've since consulted Google, and the top five returned results echo the same definition. Google it yourself: "tax refund definition" as keywords.
There are no formal definitions in Merriam-Websters for "tax refund". It's not a word, but a concept. I learned this concept through my life's mentors. In my case, first, I cite my father's wisdom and common sense. He told me that my first refund I got when I was 16 was really my money, and I didn't understand until later because, well, I was 16 and, yes, I was "sadly ignorant". Second, I cite financial adviser, syndicated talk show host, and best selling author: Dave Ramsey. I have listened to his podcasts and read a couple of his books. You can rest assured that myself, my father, and Dave Ramsey are all in agreement with what you can find in that Google search regarding the "definition" of a tax refund.
Now, I challenge you to refute that fact.
I anxiously await your poignant and concise retort.
I said there were some "sadly ignorant" posts in this thread. It is my opinion that it is sad that some people believe "I got paid $X" when they are ignorant of from whom that money came from. You may debate about that sadness, but I will return to facts every time. I stand by my word. I will debate it without end. I will not give up.
You may be done, and I would be too if my ammo was gone, and all I had left to lob was empty shells. I'm far from done presenting facts.
It seems you may be unaware (or ignorant) of what exactly the word "ignorant" means. I know from personal experience that this one word can be a tender box because it is so often misunderstood. Let's consult a dictionary:
From Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: ig·no·rant
Pronunciation: \ˈig-n(ə-)rənt\
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : unaware, uninformed
— ig·no·rant·ly adverb
— ig·no·rant·ness noun
synonyms ignorant, illiterate, unlettered, untutored, unlearned mean not having knowledge. ignorant may imply a general condition or it may apply to lack of knowledge or awareness of a particular thing <an ignorant fool> <ignorant of nuclear physics>. illiterate applies to either an absolute or a relative inability to read and write <much of the population is still illiterate>. unlettered implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading <an allusion meaningless to the unlettered>. untutored may imply lack of schooling in the arts and ways of civilization <strange monuments built by an untutored people>. unlearned suggests ignorance of advanced subjects <poetry not for academics but for the unlearned masses>.
Pronunciation: \ˈig-n(ə-)rənt\
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : unaware, uninformed
— ig·no·rant·ly adverb
— ig·no·rant·ness noun
synonyms ignorant, illiterate, unlettered, untutored, unlearned mean not having knowledge. ignorant may imply a general condition or it may apply to lack of knowledge or awareness of a particular thing <an ignorant fool> <ignorant of nuclear physics>. illiterate applies to either an absolute or a relative inability to read and write <much of the population is still illiterate>. unlettered implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading <an allusion meaningless to the unlettered>. untutored may imply lack of schooling in the arts and ways of civilization <strange monuments built by an untutored people>. unlearned suggests ignorance of advanced subjects <poetry not for academics but for the unlearned masses>.
Fact: An income tax refund is the government returning your income dollars withheld or paid in excess of tax liability without an interest payment.
Yes, those are my own words. I pulled them from my head just now. I've since consulted Google, and the top five returned results echo the same definition. Google it yourself: "tax refund definition" as keywords.
There are no formal definitions in Merriam-Websters for "tax refund". It's not a word, but a concept. I learned this concept through my life's mentors. In my case, first, I cite my father's wisdom and common sense. He told me that my first refund I got when I was 16 was really my money, and I didn't understand until later because, well, I was 16 and, yes, I was "sadly ignorant". Second, I cite financial adviser, syndicated talk show host, and best selling author: Dave Ramsey. I have listened to his podcasts and read a couple of his books. You can rest assured that myself, my father, and Dave Ramsey are all in agreement with what you can find in that Google search regarding the "definition" of a tax refund.
Now, I challenge you to refute that fact.
I anxiously await your poignant and concise retort.
I said there were some "sadly ignorant" posts in this thread. It is my opinion that it is sad that some people believe "I got paid $X" when they are ignorant of from whom that money came from. You may debate about that sadness, but I will return to facts every time. I stand by my word. I will debate it without end. I will not give up.
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From: Metro Detroit
JK007,
You may be done, and I would be too if my ammo was gone, and all I had left to lob was empty shells. I'm far from done presenting facts.
It seems you may be unaware (or ignorant) of what exactly the word "ignorant" means. I know from personal experience that this one word can be a tender box because it is so often misunderstood. Let's consult a dictionary:
From Merriam-Webster
I trust that any reasonable person would understand a dictionary entry. Now that we've cleared that up, let us continue with the facts. The same fact which you you declare is not a fact, but which you cannot refute with any source because that would be impossible. That's the beauty of facts. They stand on their own. Here's my case:
Fact: An income tax refund is the government returning your income dollars withheld or paid in excess of tax liability without an interest payment.
Yes, those are my own words. I pulled them from my head just now. I've since consulted Google, and the top five returned results echo the same definition. Google it yourself: "tax refund definition" as keywords.
There are no formal definitions in Merriam-Websters for "tax refund". It's not a word, but a concept. I learned this concept through my life's mentors. In my case, first, I cite my father's wisdom and common sense. He told me that my first refund I got when I was 16 was really my money, and I didn't understand until later because, well, I was 16 and, yes, I was "sadly ignorant". Second, I cite financial adviser, syndicated talk show host, and best selling author: Dave Ramsey. I have listened to his podcasts and read a couple of his books. You can rest assured that myself, my father, and Dave Ramsey are all in agreement with what you can find in that Google search regarding the "definition" of a tax refund.
Now, I challenge you to refute that fact.
I anxiously await your poignant and concise retort.
I said there were some "sadly ignorant" posts in this thread. It is my opinion that it is sad that some people believe "I got paid $X" when they are ignorant of from whom that money came from. You may debate about that sadness, but I will return to facts every time. I stand by my word. I will debate it without end. I will not give up.
You may be done, and I would be too if my ammo was gone, and all I had left to lob was empty shells. I'm far from done presenting facts.
It seems you may be unaware (or ignorant) of what exactly the word "ignorant" means. I know from personal experience that this one word can be a tender box because it is so often misunderstood. Let's consult a dictionary:
From Merriam-Webster
I trust that any reasonable person would understand a dictionary entry. Now that we've cleared that up, let us continue with the facts. The same fact which you you declare is not a fact, but which you cannot refute with any source because that would be impossible. That's the beauty of facts. They stand on their own. Here's my case:
Fact: An income tax refund is the government returning your income dollars withheld or paid in excess of tax liability without an interest payment.
Yes, those are my own words. I pulled them from my head just now. I've since consulted Google, and the top five returned results echo the same definition. Google it yourself: "tax refund definition" as keywords.
There are no formal definitions in Merriam-Websters for "tax refund". It's not a word, but a concept. I learned this concept through my life's mentors. In my case, first, I cite my father's wisdom and common sense. He told me that my first refund I got when I was 16 was really my money, and I didn't understand until later because, well, I was 16 and, yes, I was "sadly ignorant". Second, I cite financial adviser, syndicated talk show host, and best selling author: Dave Ramsey. I have listened to his podcasts and read a couple of his books. You can rest assured that myself, my father, and Dave Ramsey are all in agreement with what you can find in that Google search regarding the "definition" of a tax refund.
Now, I challenge you to refute that fact.
I anxiously await your poignant and concise retort.
I said there were some "sadly ignorant" posts in this thread. It is my opinion that it is sad that some people believe "I got paid $X" when they are ignorant of from whom that money came from. You may debate about that sadness, but I will return to facts every time. I stand by my word. I will debate it without end. I will not give up.
Someone stating "I got paid" or "they paid me" can also be interpretted as a figure of speech. Here's another one for you: "I just bought a new 2007 f150." Of course it's not new, it's 3 years old, but new to them. Are they sadly ignorant also? So unless everyone speaks literally all the time as opposed to figuratively, they are sadly ignorant. Or does this only apply when discussing income tax? Are we to believe that you never spoke figuratively, and that those who "got paid" honestly think the government decided to send them a check out of the blue? I doubt it. But apparently, you do.
Last edited by jk007; Apr 23, 2010 at 06:20 PM.
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From: Cape Coral, Florida
Thanks for presenting facts. But wait, Oh well, you didn't...Thank you for playing...come again. Next time bring some facts to the table, and don't pretend you know me. Fact: You don't.
Last edited by Nates06SCab; May 1, 2010 at 12:59 AM.