Notice it says "IF" the electricity for electric cars is coal derived the environmental benefits are "only" 4-5%. In my book ANY benefit is a good benefit (and if it comes with prodigious amounts of torque all the better). And don't forget, coal is projected to generate an increasingly smaller amount of the worlds electricity as more and more wind, solar and tidal electrical generating farms come on-line. Not to mention nuclear. And as the transition to electric accelerates, so will the transition to cleaner sources of electricity.

There were not enough service stations or refineries to service all the cars Henry Ford built but they sprung up like wildflowers soon enough. That's how capitalism works. Supply rises to fill the demand.

Absolutely false! The Obama administration has announced a $54 Billion program to break ground on the first new nuclear reactors in almost 3 decades. It's part of his clean energy initiative.

See here:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...gers-outrage/1

That link was from USAToday which I consider a terrible source of news but at least it is percieved as being in the middle of the conservative/liberal divide. Here's a Fox News link for all you conservative loons out there:

http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/...r-power-plant/

That's a stupid argument. Hugo Chavez is not the evil dictator Bush made him out to be (he was elected) and, even under Bush, we had an expanding trade with Venezuela:

http://www.hemispheretradeservices.c...ws.cgi?n_id=23

The Bush family has large financial stakes in oil reserves NOT in Venezuela. Unfortunately, Bush used his bully pulpit as president to increase the value of his families oil reserves and to strengthen his ties with Saudi oil interests at the expense of his own country.

Lithium is a metal and is 100% recycleable. Oil is like a drug, it is consumed and you have to keep importing it if you want more energy. Lithium never wears out, it can be used again and again. In any case, the transition to electric cars will be gradual and will slow down if there is a shortage of raw materials that cause the price to rise. The pace of battery technology is astounding and new chemistries are invented every year so do not for a moment use a potential shortage of lithium as an excuse to remain addicted to oil.
That's just BS from an extreme right wing website that does not want our country to free itself from it's oil dependency and does not believe that increasing use of fossil fuels is threatening the quality of life for humans on a global scale. The oil interests are fighting tooth and nail to keep their global energy monopoly as long as possible. It's all about the mighty dollar interests of the richest people on the planet. Don't be duped by lame arguments why it will never work. Lame arguements is what ferriers that previously shoed the horses used for transportaion at the turn of the 20th century used to try to stop the terrible, belching, stinky automobile from taking over and putting them out of work. The smart ones became auto mechanics.

You can't stop progress.

 

Well, i guess im about as ignorant as an official government report

 

You are looking at it the wrong way.

You would have to dump at least $10,000 into that 289 to make it EQUAL the performance of the ZOMBIE electric car. All of a sudden the payback seems a lot more reasonable if you want the performance. I know lots of people that have dumped more money than that into engine hop-ups and they ended up with a stinky, gas guzzling muscle car that couldn't beat my stock Volvo sedan to 150 mph.

Plus, electric cars are as close to zero maintenance as you can get and they are a kick in the pants to drive.

 

Arguing with Real is kinda like arguing with this

 

It's not that the Government report is ignorant, it's that it was a comprehensive report about potential impacts and a right wing website cherry-picked from it to create an unrealistic impression.

The blog article you linked to is not an accurate representation of the report. It's very biased.:o

You are only ignorant if you buy the doom and gloom.

 

I will stubbornly defend the truth and fight for progress, it's true.

Especially when we have people parroting that Obama is anti-nuclear when he recently funded nuclear power plant construction to the tune of $54 BILLION dollars!

Some "facts" need checking out, especially if they are anti-Obama "facts".

 

Have you ever watched his Sunday TV show? That man makes Stalin look like a Boy Scout.

 

Send me $10,000 and I'll blow the doors off of your Volvo. Plus you break a part on a gas engine and you pay a couple hundred dollars. You break a part on an electric supercar and you're paying thousands of dollars...

EDIT for clarity: The reason I say supercar is because those engines are extremely rare these days while a stock 289 is extremely common in comparison.

 

O.K., whatever you say...

 

It's all fun an games until our natural resources get filled up with lead oxides from depleted batteries.

 

The newest generation of electric cars don't use lead oxides.

Besides, as electric cars gain market share, battery recycling technology will be ready to turn old batteries into new. My county is mostly rural - farming, fishing and forestry - but we already have battery recycling depots for lead-acid, NiMH and cadmium, thanks largely to the popularity of cell phones, laptops and cordless power tools. The metals are reclaimed and sold on the metals markets. They can be purified to the same purity as freshly mined metals for a much lower cost with very little waste.

It's not rocket science.

 

Hey, I think that this electric car is cool.

Just wait for the day when the rallying call is: we must free ourselves from dependence on foreign lithium ion. Just wait.

Electric cars are cool, and global warming hysteria is a man made hoax!

 

Wonder what the Volts Per Minute on that thing is.

 

Two out of three ain't bad...

1 - Electric cars are cool.
2 - Global warming is man made
3 - Global warming is not a hoax, it's as real as it gets.

Ask your grand-children how global warming worked out for them in 50 years.

 

I would hope you could get more than a quarter mile out of them in real street use. Imagine the torque for towing with a truck bed full of batteries.