Should the F-150 go unibody?

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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I have nothing against Honda specifically, my wife has an '07 Civic EX, and it's a fine car. The Ridgeline however, is one ugly failure from Honda as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Does anyone else see the humor in a thread, designed to stir the poop on a pick-up site, being started
under a screen name taken from the guy who stabbed himself 6 times... and still couldn't get it right?
 

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtieLange
Pros of Unibody:

Better handling
Lighter
Faster

I personally think they should make the F150 unibody, like the Honda Ridgeline. The Ridgeline is a perfect truck for any purposes, while the F150 is clinging onto a past that has gone away long ago.

What are your thoughts?
Unfortunately uni-body offers the most advantage on a vehicle with a boxy body. That's because it get's it rigidity advantage by taking advantage of the inherent rigidity of a three dimensional box-like structure. A pickup is not the ideal shape to utilize this considering the bed must remain open at the back and top to carry tall objects so pick-ups work best with a body on frame design. A ladder type frame such as that used on our trucks is easy to make very strong but difficult to make very rigid. They are inherently flexy and that can contribute to and 'feed' trailer sway oscillations. More tongue weight can help, but not cure, this phenomenen. The Ridgeline has a short bed and exaggerated bed sides and a very low tow rating, it's not a real pick-up. I think pick-ups should remain body on frame and manufacturers have worked hard to increase the rigidity of the ladder frames. Modern truck frames have cross-frames that arch higher than previously used cross-frames.


But that is not to say there are not towing advantages to unibody vehicles if they have an appropriate form factor. For example, the VW Touareg is well known to be a fantastic tow vehicle right up to it's rated 7700 lbs. even though many believed it's wheelbase was too short to be stable towing such loads at speed. However, it has since proven itself to be a sure footed tow vehicle even at higher speeds with larger trailers. That's because it is very rigid and doesn't feed energy into trailer sway oscillations. The very rigid unibody chassis can transfer the trailer sway energy directly into the suspension dampers to stop oscillations before they become problematic. And that is why it often highly praised by those who have experience towing with more traditional tow vehicles that have body on frame designs.

But real pick-up trucks should continue to use body on frame designs because of the open bed that does not lend itself to a rigid unibody design.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Hey G.I JOE, why don't you cool off, I was just asking.
I wouldn't do that if I were you..
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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theres no way that unibody would hold a ****ing camper.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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a ridgeline is not a truck...look under the hood of a Ridgeline not only is it a unibody, ITS GOT A TRANSVERSE MOUNTED ENGINE AND A TRANSAXLE! guess what your trucks primary drive is the front wheels!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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^ x2
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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agreed, I wouldnt be making nasty remarks calling him G.I. Joe not a way to make a first impression on the site.
 

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Truck = Body on Frame


. <----- period!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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My F150 pukes up ridgelines all morning as it goes to work after hanging in the bars all nite drinking straight shots. And it still gets the job done.

Can that ridgeline even handle straight gas? Or does it need to be milked down?!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
Does anyone else see the humor in a thread, designed to stir the poop on a pick-up site, being started
under a screen name taken from the guy who stabbed himself 6 times... and still couldn't get it right?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 04:43 AM
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best be trollin
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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Unibody F-150? Well, if you mean unibody like the 60-66 F-100.

you mean '61-'63 with '63 being the split year, like '65 and the twin I-beam suspension

they still had a ladder frame...
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtieLange

fixed it for you...
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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I smell a GDR rat or two ...
 
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