Obama gives away your rights-Interpol
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The roles have been reversed.
Obama is protecting us.
Interpol is just an extension of the troops fighting terror.
Don't you support the troops?
Are you for the terrorists?
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I have a different perspective now, I'm all for it.
It really came down to what side of the microscope you were on.
I can see now that it is an invaluable tool and why Obama would never give it up.
This Interpol issue is getting blown way out of proportion.
They aren't going to come to your house and drag you off to another country.
They are just going to come to your house and waterboard you, and that's only if someone thinks you're a suspected terrorist.
Even Bill O'Reilly agrees that if you get waterboarded twice and don't give nothing up, it means you are most likely innocent and should be let go.
Your name would still go on a watch list though, just in case.
It really came down to what side of the microscope you were on.
I can see now that it is an invaluable tool and why Obama would never give it up.
This Interpol issue is getting blown way out of proportion.
They aren't going to come to your house and drag you off to another country.
They are just going to come to your house and waterboard you, and that's only if someone thinks you're a suspected terrorist.
Even Bill O'Reilly agrees that if you get waterboarded twice and don't give nothing up, it means you are most likely innocent and should be let go.
Your name would still go on a watch list though, just in case.
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Y'all did defend the Patriot Act---nothing bad about the unconstituitonal search and seizure there---"If you have nothin' to hide" line worked quite well for you guys. That was the company line, was it not? Stand shoulder to shoulder and repeat the company line "Hey---if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. It is for your safety!"
Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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Y'all did defend the Patriot Act---nothing bad about the unconstituitonal search and seizure there---"If you have nothin' to hide" line worked quite well for you guys. That was the company line, was it not? Stand shoulder to shoulder and repeat the company line "Hey---if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. It is for your safety!"
Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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Interpol is not an extension of the troops.
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Ok, I was lazy and phrased that poorly.
Point to you for calling me on that.:o
They do kind of the same things that the troops do, hunt terrorists, shoot the bad people, etc...
Let's call them 'Obama's Private Police Force'
'They go and do but, their records cannot be read.
We know they are doing something but we will never know what.'
Point to you for calling me on that.:o
They do kind of the same things that the troops do, hunt terrorists, shoot the bad people, etc...
Let's call them 'Obama's Private Police Force'
'They go and do but, their records cannot be read.
We know they are doing something but we will never know what.'
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Y'all did defend the Patriot Act---nothing bad about the unconstituitonal search and seizure there---"If you have nothin' to hide" line worked quite well for you guys. That was the company line, was it not? Stand shoulder to shoulder and repeat the company line "Hey---if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. It is for your safety!"
Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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I will say this, I, like many Americans were caught up in the heat of the moment when the Patriot Act was passed less than 60 days after 9/11. But it is definitely an un-constitutional Act and should be repealed. No question.
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"If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide." Many said that back then about the Patriot Act. The very people who scream about defending their rights and the basis of the Constituion allowed their rights to be stripped. The difference now is that the liberal Democrat is doing it; the Conservative Republican that did it before made it OK. It was not OK then, and it is not OK now. You folks are PO'd now about who is doing it; why weren't you PO'd back then? Does it matter who knocks on your door---our government agancy or Interpol---if your rights have been violated?
To paraphrase Shakespeare, "The worm has turned."
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Y'all did defend the Patriot Act---nothing bad about the unconstituitonal search and seizure there---"If you have nothin' to hide" line worked quite well for you guys. That was the company line, was it not? Stand shoulder to shoulder and repeat the company line "Hey---if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. It is for your safety!"
Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
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Now, the company line has changed because you don't like the guy in charge. OK, I get it---that makes perfect sense.
TSC
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The usual heavy-hitters are dodging this thread, except frank of course but, he is picking his spots.
This kind of thread is what happens when you get your news from the blogs, it sometimes gets embarrassing.
Sooooo....anywho...I'll just stand here and thump my chest a few more times....
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psssssttt...
Read what he authorized (there is nothing for you to defend)
then read what the lunatic fringe accused him of authorizing.
Then you'll understand why I have been waiting patiently in this thread barechested, to do battle with the Ring-Wing Horde.
Fore I will tell you what is best in Life.
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Maybe this is a lot to do about nothing. See for yourself.
Now look at 2(c), 2(d), 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Wikisource-Public Law 79-291
Reagan meerly said that certain international organizations were entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities, except the ones that he pointed out. Obama changed the "except" which I believe would mean certain international organizations were entitled to enjoy all of the the privileges, exemptions and immunities. That is, without exception. You really have to read sections 2(c), 2(d), 3, 4, 5 and 6 to decide if Obama has done something positive, or something negitive for our country.
Originally Posted by Reagan
By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.
RONALD REAGAN
The White House,
June 16,1983.
RONALD REAGAN
The White House,
June 16,1983.
Originally Posted by Obama
Executive Order -- Amending Executive Order 12425
EXECUTIVE ORDER
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AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 16, 2009
EXECUTIVE ORDER
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AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 16, 2009
Wikisource-Public Law 79-291
Reagan meerly said that certain international organizations were entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities, except the ones that he pointed out. Obama changed the "except" which I believe would mean certain international organizations were entitled to enjoy all of the the privileges, exemptions and immunities. That is, without exception. You really have to read sections 2(c), 2(d), 3, 4, 5 and 6 to decide if Obama has done something positive, or something negitive for our country.
