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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBuck50
I complain because everything you all write I hear from other republicans. MOST of my comments about that to try and stop it, but other comments are straight from me. You may here my ideas elsewhere, but they were not from me originally.

No, I do not think someone who talks out against a topic should be labeled a terrorist of any kind.

My original thought, which was stated weeks ago, is that people who constantly attack Obama are strongly harming this country. We need to not focus on the small things, we need to focus on the big things. Small things are important, but in life we cannot focus on all of them. I can come up with small things that other presidents have done wrong, but instead I decide to focus on the big things. One example of this is that Obama took a vacation day a few weeks ago. He got attacked because part of the money he used on that vacation came from the government. Other presidents, including democrats over the years have used government money for part of their vacation, and did not get attacked.
I could care less if Obama went on a vacation... I do care about the 'Big Thingys' you speak of.

The $787,000,000,000 he spent on 'supposed' stimulus.

The tax payer money he is giving to fund abortions.

His Czars that don't have pretty backgrounds.

His 'friends' he has

The socialized healthcare

His plans with Cap & Tax
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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I've got responses... and this is not a cop out but I just didn't see the point before on trying to convince stubborn people, and now I do again so will leave for good on this topic... commence with tearing this statement apart like you all have done on other responses.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Socialized healthcare that is going to cost TRILLIONS of dollars is a big thing. Calling people a terrorist because they don't agree with him is a big thing. Spending TRILLIONS that we don't have is a big thing. Socialized healthcare doesn't work.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
The tax payer money he is giving to fund abortions.
Sorry to get a little off-topic, but what's wrong with women's rights? It's not your body, and not even your sex. I'm sure rape victims don't want to keep their attackers bastard children.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Well then, Obama can kiss my terrorist ***!!!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Sorry to get a little off-topic, but what's wrong with women's rights? It's not your body, and not even your sex. I'm sure rape victims don't want to keep their attackers bastard children.
He said he didn't want TAX PAYER dollars funding them. That's as far as his statement went. You've already stated your views on abortion. Try to stay on topic here.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Thank you s2krn for answering on someone elses behalf...
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Thank you s2krn for answering on someone elses behalf...
You're welcome. Since you can't seem to comprehend what someone wrote, I thought I'd help you out with a little redirection. His statement had nothing to do with the ETHICS of abortion; it had to do with the Govt getting involved. I sure don't want any of my tax dollars going to fund an abortion... rape or not.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Thank you AGAIN s2krn for continuing to answer a question that was not directed towards you in any way, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Hospitals treat many people every year that don't have insurance. Who do you think pays for it? Those costs are passed on.
Stores have people come in and steal from them everyday. Those costs are passed on as well.
One way or another, some people pay for others.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Screw50
Hospitals treat many people every year that don't have insurance. Who do you think pays for it? Those costs are passed on.
Stores have people come in and steal from them everyday. Those costs are passed on as well.
One way or another, some people pay for others.
Yes, one way or another some people pay for others. That isn't going to change. What will change is the number of people who will be paying for others.

Though they say that there would be cost savings with the proposed plans, it's hard for any reasonable person to see how thay can do that. What they are proposing changes the way that health care is paid for, not how much it costs. So, if they are successful at passing their government plan, it's really not going to be all that different than what we have right now. So why do it then?

If the government would address the reasons why health care costs so much, there would probably be more people interested in what they have for plans. There are some pretty simple solutions that many people, including republican representatives from the party of NO, have mentioned. How about tort reform? We know that doctors and hospitals have to pay a fortune to cover their asses. This is a cost that it passed on to the consumer.

How about allowing people to purchase their health insurance across state lines? In the company that I work for, there is a ton of time and effort that goes into finding insurance coverage, which is manditory here in MA, that is affordable for the company and for the employees. If the pool of insurers were nation wide, maybe we would be able to find a company that we could stick with without haveing them raise their rates. If they did raise their rates, though there would be the time and effort required to find an alternative, there would be a lot more choices.

How about HSA's? People complain about how much the insurance companies make, so the solution is to give all that money to the government to manage? Why don't we start taking responsibility for our selves? We should be managing our own health care. If, instead of paying a fortune for health insurance why don't we take a chunk of that money that we spend on it and put it into a savings account. That savings account would only be used for health care, untill you reach a certin age, or rate of savings. When it was time for a check up, or you need to see your doctor for a pain your having, you pay for it out of your savings account. You would have to have health insurance for the big stuff, but it could be a high deductable plan with low premiums. You might have a more extensive policy untill you've accrued a decent about in your HSA. The more you save the less you need to spend on health insurance. Since we would be the ones getting and paying the bill, we would know how much things cost. We'd aske first. If we thought the price was too high we could look for a doctor who would do the same for less money. Kind of like we do buying a car of flat panel TV.

How about people start using their heads. It's the twenty first century. We are an advanced civilization. Why can't people in this country eat right and get excercise? Why is the fast food business so prosperous? If people just made better choices, the cost of health care would go down.

How about not allowing illegal aliens to recieve health care that costs us consumers hundreds of millions of dollars a year. If they come into the ER with a broken leg, we fix the leg and give them a one way ticket to where they came from. We don't treat all thier other ailments. We don't provide them with long term care, unless they can pay for it themselves.

Obamas way isn't the American way. We need to start fixing this right in our own homes.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Terrorists use fear to achieve political, social, or economic change. Both sides are guilty of this. The only difference between Reps/Dems and the Taliban is a different facade and the lack of violence.
You're insane.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBuck50
I complain because everything you all write I hear from other republicans. MOST of my comments about that to try and stop it, but other comments are straight from me. You may here my ideas elsewhere, but they were not from me originally.

No, I do not think someone who talks out against a topic should be labeled a terrorist of any kind.

My original thought, which was stated weeks ago, is that people who constantly attack Obama are strongly harming this country. We need to not focus on the small things, we need to focus on the big things. Small things are important, but in life we cannot focus on all of them. I can come up with small things that other presidents have done wrong, but instead I decide to focus on the big things. One example of this is that Obama took a vacation day a few weeks ago. He got attacked because part of the money he used on that vacation came from the government. Other presidents, including democrats over the years have used government money for part of their vacation, and did not get attacked.
Frank S<-----not a Republican.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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You're insane.
Is it really that far fetched? The tactics are the same but violence is not used. It's more like political light terrorism.

Republicans use the "death panel" tactic and Democrats use the "****" tactic to achieve their own political goals.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Is it really that far fetched? The tactics are the same but violence is not used. It's more like political light terrorism.

Republicans use the "death panel" tactic and Democrats use the "****" tactic to achieve their own political goals.
You're insane.
 
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