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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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One other thing, that doesn't cost a dime, is being in a level of awareness...knowing what's going on around you, at all times. That way, the element of surprise is not a factor on the bad guys' part!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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i bought the glock 19 and the 21c. i got the 19 cause its 9mm and the ammo is cheaper and it is smaller and just fits in a back pocket of my jeans. the 21c is a compensated 45. compensated means that some of the gas will push the recoil down. the nice thing about both being glocks is that i can practice more economically with the 19 and have the 45 available for "a more serious situation". except for a slight difference in frame size they are identically built and with the compensation the feel is also real close. one thing i like over the 45 over the 9mm is that i dont have to pull the target in to see what i hit, the holes are big enough to see at 25 yards.

and believe me gun buying is addictive.

and as for hollow points. check local laws. here in nj i have talked to a dozen people who should know and they all have a different view.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by projetmech
i bought the glock 19 and the 21c. i got the 19 cause its 9mm and the ammo is cheaper and it is smaller and just fits in a back pocket of my jeans. the 21c is a compensated 45. compensated means that some of the gas will push the recoil down. the nice thing about both being glocks is that i can practice more economically with the 19 and have the 45 available for "a more serious situation". except for a slight difference in frame size they are identically built and with the compensation the feel is also real close. one thing i like over the 45 over the 9mm is that i dont have to pull the target in to see what i hit, the holes are big enough to see at 25 yards.

and believe me gun buying is addictive.

and as for hollow points. check local laws. here in nj i have talked to a dozen people who should know and they all have a different view.
The problem with a conpensated pistol for self defense is that most problems occur during the night. When you shoot a compensated pistol at night the flash is blinding, so you better make the first shot count.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Sounds like the OP has his mind made up on a hand gun, but I have to agree with all the peeps that mentioned shotguns. Quick, easy, good stopping power, hip or shoulder fire and you dont have to be accurate. Best of all you can buy them cheap and mod them to what you want.
Also think about spending some of that money on making your house less of a target. Security doors, an alarm sign out front, a dog, motion sensor and timed lighting.
I already have all of the security stuff, but if it were to go off, it would take about 15 minutes for the police to show up. I'd would much rather have something that I can hold them off with until they can arrive.

I've also watched a few videos of people firing GP100's with full house ammo, the flash seems to go out to the sides with all of the videos, even though there are no slots or holes drilled into the side.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Threaded barrel and suppressor... Problem solved!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Timberdoodles
One other thing, that doesn't cost a dime, is being in a level of awareness...knowing what's going on around you, at all times. That way, the element of surprise is not a factor on the bad guys' part!
theres surprise on his end when he gets shot, or flat out clubbed.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Yeah that might be mildly surprising to get shot/stabbed/clubbed.

I don't know if I said it before, but I'm not going to be carrying this mag. It's just going to be used as a home defense weapon just in case some one wants to ice me or my family.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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typically if they come in FOR that intention, your one step behind... the only time you have the edge is when they are trying to steal things forcefully, they really want their weapon for intimidation. granted its not across the board, just general speculation.

i personally want 3 guns for home protection.

small light pistol for every day use and 4x4 trips.
short barrel 8 shot pistol grip shotgun (probably folding stock, or one with a full stock pistol grip for my slightly beat up right hand)
and an ar-15 for that longer shot and the coyotes.

reason being is i have a 2 year old, and i will shoot lol
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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I did manage to find 2 places with a GP100. One was a hole in the wall pawn shop who wanted $700 for it which included everything, and the second was a well known shop called Gables that carried a whole variety of GP100's (stainless steel, blued, 6/4 inch barrels), and the price on the one I want is $509 cash. SO I know where I'm going when ever I can scrape together enough cash.
Wow... I bought mine brand new from a local gun shop beginning of this year and it only cost $450...

I thought the price of guns has gone down, since there is no ammo to shot with??

The flash from the sides are just a bi product of a revolver... The barrel is not sealed to the cylinder, so that bit of open area is where the flash comes from... Just don't have your other hand near the cylinder! If you shoot with both hands, cup your second hand under the one holding the gun. This helps steady the gun (it is heavy!) and keeps your fingers away from the 'flash'...

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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Just about any of the weapons mentioned will do the job. The thing that has not really been mentioned {unless these old eyes missed it} is the practice and training. You mentioned that you are a beginner...... Find a class and go thru the whole thing. The NRA has instructors listed on their website. IF the excrement hits the rotary oscillator, you will not have time to learn the weapon at the time....You need to know it and be ready. Plus it is a safety factor....Learn weapons handling the correct way from the beginning and you will not have a problem. And after the class, keep up with it by practicing.....

As far as my preference: I have a Ruger GP100 6" stainless...great weapon. My father has a 4" blue that he uses as his home defense weapon. I also have a Mossberg 500 set up for home defense....loaded with the correct ammunition, over penetration risk are reduced to a minimum. I also like my XD45. Kahr 9mm, and a bunch of other items that reside in the safe.

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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Practice will have too come after I buy it, the local firing range is no more. I'm sure I can practice at a few of my gun nut friends places
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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The problem with a conpensated pistol for self defense is that most problems occur during the night. When you shoot a compensated pistol at night the flash is blinding, so you better make the first shot count.
good point. glad you mentioned that. simple concept, but it never occured to me. do all my shooting in the daytime. until i get to shoot it at night and see for myself i guess if the need arises i will try and close my eyes as i pull the trigger. or maybe ill just put the 19 upstairs until i see the flash at night.

i know my 357 sure spits some flames
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by projetmech
good point. glad you mentioned that. simple concept, but it never occured to me. do all my shooting in the daytime. until i get to shoot it at night and see for myself i guess if the need arises i will try and close my eyes as i pull the trigger. or maybe ill just put the 19 upstairs until i see the flash at night.

i know my 357 sure spits some flames
I have only shot them once or twice at night, but it affected me badly. I had a huge white dot in my vision for 15-20 sec, in a life or death situation that could be all the difference. I am not a huge fan of 9mm for defense, but some hydro-shocks in it until you find out how the 45 will affect you might not be a bad idea.
 
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