Why does Obama's Healthcare Plan offend people?

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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Mac Attack
Oh and who needs government safety standards on vehicles? No forced recalls.

Get rid of courts...you have a problem with someone, solve it!

No laws. Everything goes.

You can't educate your own kids...don't blame me because they are stupid or when I have to shoot them when they try to rob me because they are dumber than bricks and can't do anything else!

You can't make it? Die!
Wow, so surprised that you are from Chicago. None of the public services that you are referring to will banckrupt the country at the cost of trillions to my children. Pull your head out of Obama **** and wake up. Grow up and realize whats going on.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Mac Attack
Oh and who needs government safety standards on vehicles? No forced recalls.

Get rid of courts...you have a problem with someone, solve it!

No laws. Everything goes.

You can't educate your own kids...don't blame me because they are stupid or when I have to shoot them when they try to rob me because they are dumber than bricks and can't do anything else!

You can't make it? Die!
Government should have no say in car regulations. If I want to have a safe car, then I will pay extra for it. Don't have government put the car makers in a choke hold unless they do what government wants.

Having courts was set up by conservative right wingers in the beginning of the country. (Innocent until proven guilty)

Right wingers set the laws and constitution for this country.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mxracer49
With government run healthcare they probably wouldn't have let your father in law run up that bill because they would have denied most of the procedures given his age. Would that have been better?
Fallacies---this idea of a "death panel" are just not true---
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
4. Typical liberal response for 'no comment'
That is possibly the lamest thing I've heard all day, right up there with doo doo head. Maybe you should read the link I posted on the front page kid, here's a link to it. I think what you said was also a typical conservative response, blame the liberals for everything even if you have no clue what the problem is or was originally caused by.

The reason everyone has to pay for it is because no one will. You can't have only a select few pay for it because that will not generate enough revenue to pay for nationalized health care. If you give people the choice to pay for it, they won't.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
Tell me one program that the government has succeeded in better than private industry, other than military. The protection of the citizens from outside forces is the extent that the Federal government should operate. Everything else should be left to private industry or the states. Obama himslef said just yesterday that FedEx and UPS needed no help but the Postal Service does. There is a reason for that. And they want to run medical care? Give me a break!
Actually, Bluejay, the stats that I have read have indicated that Medicare is actually MORE COST EFFECTIVE than private insurance...and that there is less waste with the govt. than there is with private insurance.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by referee54
Fallacies---this idea of a "death panel" are just not true---
Right, but you do have a Gov't commitee voting on care, if they say no, screw you!!!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by referee54
Actually, Bluejay, the stats that I have read have indicated that Medicare is actually MORE COST EFFECTIVE than private insurance...and that there is less waste with the govt. than there is with private insurance.


You must not know aybody on medicare. The fast majority of medical claims that don't get paid aer Medicare claims.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
That is possibly the lamest thing I've heard all day, right up there with doo doo head. Maybe you should read the link I posted on the front page kid, here's a link to it. I think what you said was also a typical conservative response, blame the liberals for everything even if you have no clue what the problem is or was originally caused by.

The reason everyone has to pay for it is because no one will. You can't have only a select few pay for it because that will not generate enough revenue to pay for nationalized health care. If you give people the choice to pay for it, they won't.
Yes I saw the article you posted, I can even play the little game next to the article to soak up all the global warming CO2. It's a BS article.

And I agree 100% with your second paragraph, welcome to the conservative party.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Actually, Bluejay, the stats that I have read have indicated that Medicare is actually MORE COST EFFECTIVE than private insurance...and that there is less waste with the govt. than there is with private insurance.
Meidcare is more cost effective.


 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41


You must not know aybody on medicare. The fast majority of medical claims that don't get paid aer Medicare claims.
Actually, my parents are retired and on Medicare---plue other insurance as my father was a teacher, as well...so yes---their helathcare with the private and the gov't. is pretty effective, i would say---my father had to have a stent put into his heart a couple of years ago---wham, bam thankyou ma'm (the cariologist is a woman) and everything---including the Medicare stuff---was taken care of---and guess what0---he wasn't denied and he didn't have to wait, either.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
Meidcare is more cost effective.


I know it sounds farcical, but believe what you will. Several independent studies have validated it.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
Yes I saw the article you posted, I can even play the little game next to the article to soak up all the global warming CO2. It's a BS article.
Changing the subject, now you're pulling the liberal tricks.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Do you think that local government is better than state government? The path after the IL governors mansion leads to the federal pen.

All government is corrupt and wasteful.

Also eliminate government mandated work safety an minimum wages.

Basically Darwinism at its best.

BTW...the founding fathers were anything but conservative. The idea of separation from the Brits was very radical.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Changing the subject, now you're pulling the liberal tricks.
What I am saying is it is a liberal leaning website with a selective info article.
It doesn't match up to the facts.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Mac Attack
Do you think that local government is better than state government? The path after the IL governors mansion leads to the federal pen.

All government is corrupt and wasteful.

Also eliminate government mandated work safety an minimum wages.

Basically Darwinism at its best.

BTW...the founding fathers were anything but conservative. The idea of separation from the Brits was very radical.
They were actually "liberals" in their terminology. They were not 'modern day' liberals. Modern day liberals are no where near 'liberal' or 'progressive'. They are pretty much just socialist.
 
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