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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Government run.... restaurant?

I know the debate is about government run health care. Imagine though, if it was a government run restaurant.

NotSoSure.org: Health Care Reform - Part 1

If you think that that's too far fetched, check this out:

Washington Post-Senate Votes To Privatize Its Failing Restaurants

I know that most American people will continue to sit idly by while the government pushed their agenda right on through. We'll suffer through it untill we can elect people who can employ a little common sense. No one will be able to say that nothing was said about what would happen though.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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I just don't understand anybody who thinks the government is good at running anything. The USPS for example, 700 billion dollar defecit. Social Security.... the list can go on and on. None of it works out very well, and libs keep wanting to put control of things in their hands. Politicians are retarded.....
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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The story was about privatizing government run restaurants like the Senate Restaurant and various other cafeterias.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
The story was about privatizing government run restaurants like the Senate Restaurant and various other cafeterias.
Right.....because the government can't run a restaurant, but libs want them to run our health care.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Well I really don't see a correlation between crappy cafeteria food and health care. They're outsourcing their restaurants to save money.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Do you see a correlation between the failing enterprises in the story being run by the government?

How about a correlation between the successful enterprises in the story being run by the private sector?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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The idea between the two stories, is just to show that government mishandles everything. The restaurants in the second story is a perfect example of how ineffectively the government runs a "business". The government doesn't have to work for its money, so it is naturally inefficient. If it needs more money to cover expenses, it just puts on a big moral/ethical show about how raising taxes is a hard choice, then does it anyway. Nobody is going to argue with it, they'll just whine a little.

What makes you think the government is going to magically run a medical "business" any better?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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That argument is like saying, "how can someone take care of their first born child, if they don't properly maintain their car". Heath care and a restaurant are totally different thing. One greatly outweighs the other. I think the government might put just a little bit more effort into their national health care plan, than a cafeteria.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
I think the government might put just a little bit more effort into their national health care plan, than a cafeteria.
You might be willing to bet your life and our nation's economy on that. Not sure why you would, given their track record.

I, however, am not willing to bet my life. And I KNOW nationalized healthcare is bad bad bad for the economy.

Yeah, our healthcare system is costly and far from perfect. That is a horrible reason to let the government take over, as they will make it much worse.

IMO, we will get a watered down national health care plan this fall. The president and liberals will proclaim victory. Over time, it will be shown to be a disaster, though the mainstream media will procliam it an instant success.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
IMO, we will get a watered down national health care plan this fall. The president and liberals will proclaim victory. Over time, it will be shown to be a disaster, though the mainstream media will procliam it an instant success.
I will put money on it. and in 2012 Mrs Palin will be the pres and have to fix it all
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
That argument is like saying, "how can someone take care of their first born child, if they don't properly maintain their car". Heath care and a restaurant are totally different thing. One greatly outweighs the other. I think the government might put just a little bit more effort into their national health care plan, than a cafeteria.
Unfortunately, that restaurant is not their car and this is not their "first born child". Think social security and welfare, those both "greatly outweighed" everything else, in their time. Healthcare won't be far behind, especially with changes in government. It takes business sense to run a health care system that works. In Canada, for example, we have people walk into our emergency rooms, without a second thought, because they have a cough. They cannot be removed from the hospital until they've seen a Dr. The Dr's are all busy dealing with other patients.

I've even watched people walk into the ER and make up claims, just to get out of the -40C winter cold. Instead of going to a homeless shelter, they'll fall asleep in the ER waiting to be "diagnosed". It doesn't cost them a cent, unlike a hotel room or apartment.

The person walking into that room, doesn't pay a cent, but they just incurred an $800 expense for the government. Now our ER's are backed up with people who go to the ER for every sniffle and cough, just because they can. There's no consequence for them doing so and no reason for them to think twice. Yes, there's real emergencies in that room and life threatening ones get bumped to the front, but why not incur a monetary charge for people, so that they need to consider whether or not it really is an emergency?

Government doesn't care, it's just a ploy to buy votes. It's the deadbeat dad of all dads. The one who drives around in a beat up 1983 Honda Civic CX hatchback and doesn't work, but instead cons people out of their hard earned money. Then he finds out he's got a "first born" and refuses to pay child support and wants nothing to do with the child.

Just my $0.02.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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I think it's generally accepted that this whole program will fail, but our politicians are going to push it through no matter what. All I can do is hope that it actually works, it won't but it would be nice if it was the worlds first perfect health care service. Truly, I believe that our government will put so much effort into this plan no matter how bad it gets.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
I think it's generally accepted that this whole program will fail, but our politicians are going to push it through no matter what. All I can do is hope that it actually works, it won't but it would be nice if it was the worlds first perfect health care service. Truly, I believe that our government will put so much effort into this plan no matter how bad it gets.
Probably, until the next government, who won't give a damn and everyone will be left with the failure and no effort. It's sad.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Truly, I believe that our government will put so much effort into this plan no matter how bad it gets.
Because they have such a great record of putting much effort into anything else? What history do you have to support this? Blind faith. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Today's brand of liberalism is a religion, and no amount of reason or logic can sway these extremists. It's all the rage though, so we'll have our own version of Sharia Law soon.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1muddytruck
Because they have such a great record of putting much effort into anything else? What history do you have to support this? Blind faith. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Today's brand of liberalism is a religion, and no amount of reason or logic can sway these extremists. It's all the rage though, so we'll have our own version of Sharia Law soon.
I don't know what your rambling about, but our government is known for dumping time, money, and wasted effort on dead end projects.

Prohibition was one of those things that 10 years of effort and money were dumped into with nothing to show for it.
 
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