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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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Anyone been audited by the IRS?

I went online to check my refund status of my tax return. We filed an extension because we were building our house and wanted to take the $8,000 tax credit this year. I've checked it in the past and it said we were supposed to be getting our refund back by August 4th.

Tonight I checked it and this is what I found:

Refund Status Results

We have received your tax return and it is being reviewed. You will receive a notice from us requesting additional information from you. When you receive the notice, please provide the requested information within 30 days. You may not receive all or a part of your refund until we receive and review the information we requested from you. If you need more information after you receive our notice, call the number on the notice.
Please read the following information related to your tax situation:

* Tax Topic 151, Your Appeal Rights
Am I getting audited? I use a CPA and the numbers are right as far as I know. I keep thinking that maybe they just need documentation of our marriage to show my wife's name change? Or maybe further documentation on the house? I'm sweating bullets right now though, and our CPA is closed on Fridays!!!!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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No, not necessarily getting audited. They just have a question about your return. Some of the info, or how it was filed. Depending on the answer, it could develop into an audit.

I'm confused on your staement about the house credit. Getting an extension does not allow you to use a law that applies at a later date. You still must file as it applies to returns for year 2008. I'm sure I'm misunderstanding as your CPA would know that.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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No, not necessarily getting audited. They just have a question about your return. Some of the info, or how it was filed. Depending on the answer, it could develop into an audit.

I'm confused on your staement about the house credit. Getting an extension does not allow you to use a law that applies at a later date. You still must file as it applies to returns for year 2008. I'm sure I'm misunderstanding as your CPA would know that.
There is a stipulation in the first time home buyers credit that allows you to treat a house purchased in 2009 as if it was purchased on December 31, 2008.

If I’m qualified for the tax credit and buy a home in 2009, can I apply the tax credit against my 2008 tax return?
Yes. The law allows taxpayers to choose ("elect") to treat qualified home purchases in 2009 as if the purchase occurred on December 31, 2008. This means that the 2008 income limit (MAGI) applies and the election accelerates when the credit can be claimed (tax filing for 2008 returns instead of for 2009 returns). A benefit of this election is that a home buyer in 2009 will know their 2008 MAGI with certainty, thereby helping the buyer know whether the income limit will reduce their credit amount.

Taxpayers buying a home who wish to claim it on their 2008 tax return, but who have already submitted their 2008 return to the IRS, may file an amended 2008 return claiming the tax credit. You should consult with a tax professional to determine how to arrange this.
We owed money so I did a little research and had the CPA file an extension until the house was finished so we wouldn't owe.

Someone said it's probably that credit that they want more information on.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by houston_four
There is a stipulation in the first time home buyers credit that allows you to treat a house purchased in 2009 as if it was purchased on December 31, 2008.



We owed money so I did a little research and had the CPA file an extension until the house was finished so we wouldn't owe.

Someone said it's probably that credit that they want more information on.
That's probabaly what it is. While I have never been auditied, my parents were way back in the day. They were both School Teachers but they had opened up a video / photography business over the summers they had off. The first year of their business, they were audited. I sell Tax and Accounting research to CPAs and also have a CPA do my taxes. Usually the CPAs know well enough to avoid "audit flags" from the IRS. Small business owners, independent contractors, etc... That's who they usually focus on. They probably just need to verify a few things before they cut you a check. The IRS is looking for every penny they can due to the deficit and recession. That's why we have seen a big jump in our INternational Tax research because so many companies are trying to avoid Taxes in the US. As an individual filer though, you are probably OK.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by houston_four
There is a stipulation in the first time home buyers credit that allows you to treat a house purchased in 2009 as if it was purchased on December 31, 2008.



We owed money so I did a little research and had the CPA file an extension until the house was finished so we wouldn't owe.

Someone said it's probably that credit that they want more information on.
I did not know that stipulation was there. Probably because I have not yet read the rule. Just what I saw in the news on it. I would bet they are going to want some info and maybe proof of the purchase. That is the kind of thing that could easily get abused. Even if they turn it into an audit, if you've reported everything, should be no worry. If you haven't, would just mean you owe additional tax. That is, unless you have been fraudulent. For the normal tax payer, there is nothing to fear from an audit, they're just a necessary nuisance.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
... they're just a nuisance.
Fixed. What the government/IRS does, is by no means necessary. Tax has been bred into society, though, for so long that nobody thinks to challenge it. Government goes around counterfeiting money, through the federal reserve, and stealing your hard earned cash, through the IRS. The only people who should believe that it is necessary, are those people who are receiving cash from the government and not doing anything to earn it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Fixed. What the government/IRS does, is by no means necessary. Tax has been bred into society, though, for so long that nobody thinks to challenge it. Government goes around counterfeiting money, through the federal reserve, and stealing your hard earned cash, through the IRS. The only people who should believe that it is necessary, are those people who are receiving cash from the government and not doing anything to earn it.
If you are going to have a tax system of self reporting such as we have, audits are necessary due to the dishonesty of some of the citizens.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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I did not know that stipulation was there. Probably because I have not yet read the rule. Just what I saw in the news on it. I would bet they are going to want some info and maybe proof of the purchase. That is the kind of thing that could easily get abused. Even if they turn it into an audit, if you've reported everything, should be no worry. If you haven't, would just mean you owe additional tax. That is, unless you have been fraudulent. For the normal tax payer, there is nothing to fear from an audit, they're just a necessary nuisance.
You hit the nail on the head. I called the IRS office and spoke with a gentleman and he said it was due to the home credit. We sent in our closing settlement statement but maybe they need more documentation (ie. deed etc..)? He said since they have started that there have been 12 year old kids buying houses and people with an AGI of $1,000 buying houses...so there's a lot of fraud going on which has caused the system a major back up. It's a damn shame we live in a society where people do stuff like that!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. I called the IRS office and spoke with a gentleman and he said it was due to the home credit. We sent in our closing settlement statement but maybe they need more documentation (ie. deed etc..)? He said since they have started that there have been 12 year old kids buying houses and people with an AGI of $1,000 buying houses...so there's a lot of fraud going on which has caused the system a major back up. It's a damn shame we live in a society where people do stuff like that!
Yep, as i said, audits are a necessary evil as long as we use a self reporting system. Some people, and it's escalating.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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If you are going to have a tax system of self reporting such as we have, audits are necessary due to the dishonesty of some of the citizens.
I think what he was saying, in an indirect way, is that income tax is onerous and even unconstitutional.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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I think what he was saying, in an indirect way, is that income tax is onerous and even unconstitutional.
Heard that many times before, but it's still there and we still need to comply if we want to stay out of jail. I don't mind paying income tax. Wish my tax was 10 times what it is. That would mean my income is 10 times as much. I had much rather pay income tax rather than all the hidden taxes we pay.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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I think what he was saying, in an indirect way, is that income tax is onerous and even unconstitutional.
That's what I was getting at. If even 20% of the population, at large, stopped paying their taxes, they can't put everyone in jail. Can you imagine the Canadian government throwing 6,000,000 people in jail for tax evasion? How about the US government putting 60,000,000 people in jail? I think they'd have to re-evaluate their tax systems.

I like challenging the status quo, what can I say?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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I only got audited that one time.

 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Good thing they didn't take your sock suspenders.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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OP - I agree the delay is due to the home purchase credit.

Sounds like you opted for an extension. I've heard of others in this situation, and what they did was filed their original return on time (paying any taxes due), then filing an amendment to the return and waiting for the refund.

I wonder if the IRS would have preferred you do it that way, and since you opted for an extension, you are getting a little worse treatment than if you had filed and then amended.

Not surprising to me the IRS is very slow in paying these refunds. Good luck on getting yours soon!
 
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