How to teach a lesson
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How to teach a lesson
Man I wish I could see the look on this guys face. 
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Power - where did you find that pic? Believe it or not in NY they DO run it thru any vehicle that is blocking a hydrant. I don't know how they get around liabilty but if you block a hydrant you are in the wrong anyhow so it may not be a problem. Thanks though for the pic - I needed a good laugh!
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Just to add to Cowlady's post, if I am not mistaken, every state does the same thing. I know I have heard of it happening here in Texas. And I have seen it happen in Florida. It has something to do with an easement, and the 15 or so feet around the hydrant belonging to the State. Either way, it's a hard lesson for those who park there, but a relief for those of us who know better than to park in front of a hydrant.
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How much time does it take to break the glass and clean the broken shards off so you don't cut your hose. Compare that with how long it would take run the hose in front of the car or over the hood (addendum to my earlier post) Over the roof would cramp the hose too much. I am not saying the fire comany was wrong in what they did, they did what they thought they had to do. I just happen to disagree with the tactic.
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Fire Chief, "I'm truely sorry that the hospital for sick orphans burned to the ground but, you see there was this new BMW parked in front of the hydrant and...". 
p.s. Good thing I'm not a fireman. I wouldn't have broken the windows. I would have used a fire axe to go thru the damn doors.
p.p.s. And if I did have a hose that would bend, I'd still use the axe and start at the grille, working my way to the rear license plate. (Hell, I may never get that fire out.)
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p.s. Good thing I'm not a fireman. I wouldn't have broken the windows. I would have used a fire axe to go thru the damn doors.
p.p.s. And if I did have a hose that would bend, I'd still use the axe and start at the grille, working my way to the rear license plate. (Hell, I may never get that fire out.)
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J-150: I agree with you. If my house was burning, to heck with the Beemer.
sprhck: examine that photo a little closer. That's not a typical 2" hose, that's a huge pumper 4". Obviously the pumper needed a refill. See how tight it is? This is either a very well played hoax photo, or the Cali. FD needed every inch and the only way to do it was to knock the fool's window's out. I would expect no less if my vehicle was in the same spot. Takes about 3 sec. per window with a decent haligan tool.
Awsome picture, regardless...
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sprhck: examine that photo a little closer. That's not a typical 2" hose, that's a huge pumper 4". Obviously the pumper needed a refill. See how tight it is? This is either a very well played hoax photo, or the Cali. FD needed every inch and the only way to do it was to knock the fool's window's out. I would expect no less if my vehicle was in the same spot. Takes about 3 sec. per window with a decent haligan tool.
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don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying what the fire department did was right or wrong... I will say that I am sick of people who think the laws don't apply to them because they have a luxury vehicle. A few examples:
a few years ago a cemi truck flipped and the driver and two other people in other cars were killed when the cemi lost its brakes. It was barreling down a hill (not too steep so he had lost control but enough so that he couldn't stop). He was honking his horn and flashing his lights, and a woman in a beamer refused to pull out of the cemi's way to allow it to pass because she was talking on her cell phone. To avoid the beamer the cemi swerved and hit other cars and flipped, like I said, killing hte driver and two people in other cars. I've also seen on cops many times where a woman will get pulled over for speeding or irratic drive (and she's almost always in hubby's beamer) and rather then dealing with the situation she'll tell the cop to shut up because shes on the phone and that's more important then he is. There was also a situation where a rich woman was talking on her phone as a plane was attempting to take off, big no no, could cause hte plane to crash. S he'd been asked to hang up several times but felt that her phone call was more important then the plane, and when another passenger said "your call could cause hte plane to crash" she misenterpreted, told the stewardess he had threatened to crash the plane if she didn't hang up, the plane returned to the airport and the man was arrested and put in jail. I see them park in front of fire hydrants, park in school zones where they shouldn't be, and park at the end of a row where there is no spots so only one car can get past at a time. 9 times out of 10 it is either a mercedes, a bmw, or a lexus, at least from my personal observation. I would've gone right through there window too if for no other reason then to teach them that they aren't above the law because they can afford a better vehicle.
a few years ago a cemi truck flipped and the driver and two other people in other cars were killed when the cemi lost its brakes. It was barreling down a hill (not too steep so he had lost control but enough so that he couldn't stop). He was honking his horn and flashing his lights, and a woman in a beamer refused to pull out of the cemi's way to allow it to pass because she was talking on her cell phone. To avoid the beamer the cemi swerved and hit other cars and flipped, like I said, killing hte driver and two people in other cars. I've also seen on cops many times where a woman will get pulled over for speeding or irratic drive (and she's almost always in hubby's beamer) and rather then dealing with the situation she'll tell the cop to shut up because shes on the phone and that's more important then he is. There was also a situation where a rich woman was talking on her phone as a plane was attempting to take off, big no no, could cause hte plane to crash. S he'd been asked to hang up several times but felt that her phone call was more important then the plane, and when another passenger said "your call could cause hte plane to crash" she misenterpreted, told the stewardess he had threatened to crash the plane if she didn't hang up, the plane returned to the airport and the man was arrested and put in jail. I see them park in front of fire hydrants, park in school zones where they shouldn't be, and park at the end of a row where there is no spots so only one car can get past at a time. 9 times out of 10 it is either a mercedes, a bmw, or a lexus, at least from my personal observation. I would've gone right through there window too if for no other reason then to teach them that they aren't above the law because they can afford a better vehicle.
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Yea, thats right, call this person that parked the car a fool or idiot without even knowing all the facts. Thats the American gung-ho way.... judge them without a fair trial. Sure he or she was in the wrong and he or she should have been towed or ticketed but he or she didn't need to have their windows broken to prove a point. If there was NO other way, then YES I would say break them..But look at the photo, there WAS another way to get that hose around the car. This was a criminal act if you ask me and I bet a good lawyer would prove it too. I'm not trying to bash the FIRE DEPT at all..I respect them greatly..But just like every occupation, there is always one bad apple or two that gives all the others a bad name. Like some of you have said, it probably took more time to break the windows and would possibly cause more damage to the fire hose laying on that broken glass through the window...Sorry, but this doesn't fly with me. But, also, this is just my opinion.
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Mattbert, you have really "hit it on the head". As I said before, some people are just too self important.
ScrewDriver, you also have an excellent point , however, you have not taken into consideration that the BMW was 100% wrong.
When you park in front of a hydrant and a bylaw officer comes by, you get a ticket. Obviously, most BMW/Lexus/Mercedes are not hurt by a $50 citation. But to break their window? Now that is a punishment.
Think about this example, a 4 lane roadway (2 each direction). Ambulance or Fire are approaching you from the rear with lights and sirens going. There are no other cars around so do you pull over? The emergency vehicle can pass you to the right or left with no problem. But do you pull over? If you do not do you deserve a ticket? Sure you do. If the vehicle was delayed because you did not pull over do you deserve a ticket? Yes you do. If someone dies because the vehicle was delayed, do you deserve a ticket? Well, you should actually have more than that done.
The point is this, we don't know that someone will die because you did not pull over. The BMW driver did not know that the hydrant would be needed. I'm sure he/she would not have parked there had they known the hydrant would be needed. So what this means is never park in front of a hydrant. Every person in that photograph will never park in front of a hydrant after what they have seen. Now that is more effective than a $50 ticket anyday.
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ScrewDriver, you also have an excellent point , however, you have not taken into consideration that the BMW was 100% wrong.
When you park in front of a hydrant and a bylaw officer comes by, you get a ticket. Obviously, most BMW/Lexus/Mercedes are not hurt by a $50 citation. But to break their window? Now that is a punishment.
Think about this example, a 4 lane roadway (2 each direction). Ambulance or Fire are approaching you from the rear with lights and sirens going. There are no other cars around so do you pull over? The emergency vehicle can pass you to the right or left with no problem. But do you pull over? If you do not do you deserve a ticket? Sure you do. If the vehicle was delayed because you did not pull over do you deserve a ticket? Yes you do. If someone dies because the vehicle was delayed, do you deserve a ticket? Well, you should actually have more than that done.
The point is this, we don't know that someone will die because you did not pull over. The BMW driver did not know that the hydrant would be needed. I'm sure he/she would not have parked there had they known the hydrant would be needed. So what this means is never park in front of a hydrant. Every person in that photograph will never park in front of a hydrant after what they have seen. Now that is more effective than a $50 ticket anyday.
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...oh, what the photo didn't is that the Beemer owner was the arsonist...
...no, that's not it...what the photo didn't say is that it's the Beemer owner's house...
Lighten Up ScrewDriver 2001...Geez. What kinda lawsuit can you seriously have?
Judge: so, you were illegaly parked and the FD had to break your windows to put out the fire?
Beemer: yes your honor, but...
Judge: ...but nothing. What is your insurance deductible and how much damage was there?
Beemer: $250. and $600. in damage.
Judge: better come up with the $250 'cuz there's a chance of rain. Case dismissed and you still owe the $150. parking ticket.
...no, that's not it...what the photo didn't say is that it's the Beemer owner's house...
Lighten Up ScrewDriver 2001...Geez. What kinda lawsuit can you seriously have?
Judge: so, you were illegaly parked and the FD had to break your windows to put out the fire?
Beemer: yes your honor, but...
Judge: ...but nothing. What is your insurance deductible and how much damage was there?
Beemer: $250. and $600. in damage.
Judge: better come up with the $250 'cuz there's a chance of rain. Case dismissed and you still owe the $150. parking ticket.
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"sprhck: examine that photo a little closer. That's not a typical 2" hose, that's a huge pumper 4". Obviously the pumper needed a refill. See how tight it is? This is either a very well played hoax photo, or the Cali. FD needed every inch and the only way to do it was to knock the fool's window's out. I would expect no less if my vehicle was in the same spot. Takes about 3 sec. per window with a decent haligan tool."
Typical 2 inch hose? I don't know of any 2 inch hose in the fire service used to supply trucks. It's 2 and half, 3, 4 and 5 inch, some companies now even use 6 inch. ANYWAY, it would most likely not be in the process of being refilled, it is using that as a supply into his pump and then shooting it right back out either to another truck or into preconnects that are being used for fire attack. Now, maybe they didn't have enough hose to go around (avg. truck carries at least 500ft. of 5 inch hose). So maybe they had to break the windows out. But if I am inside, I don't want to have to shut down my line and back out of the house so we can go back and fix some gung-ho fireman's mistake by putting the hose over glass. How about if they don't notice the mistake at first and lose the hose line when they guys are inside and they lose water, Most trucks in cites with hydrants only carry 500 gallons of water. Then you have to contact your men inside onthe radio and tell them to back out. And thats no easy task, considering you can't hear much. So then you have to lay onthe air horn for 30 seconds(universal evac signal). Too much risk to fire dept. personel if you ask me.
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Typical 2 inch hose? I don't know of any 2 inch hose in the fire service used to supply trucks. It's 2 and half, 3, 4 and 5 inch, some companies now even use 6 inch. ANYWAY, it would most likely not be in the process of being refilled, it is using that as a supply into his pump and then shooting it right back out either to another truck or into preconnects that are being used for fire attack. Now, maybe they didn't have enough hose to go around (avg. truck carries at least 500ft. of 5 inch hose). So maybe they had to break the windows out. But if I am inside, I don't want to have to shut down my line and back out of the house so we can go back and fix some gung-ho fireman's mistake by putting the hose over glass. How about if they don't notice the mistake at first and lose the hose line when they guys are inside and they lose water, Most trucks in cites with hydrants only carry 500 gallons of water. Then you have to contact your men inside onthe radio and tell them to back out. And thats no easy task, considering you can't hear much. So then you have to lay onthe air horn for 30 seconds(universal evac signal). Too much risk to fire dept. personel if you ask me.
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Happens here in Alabama. I have witnessed it myself. Of course, I am a member of the Fire Department!!!
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I think we're taking this photo way too serious. I think it's hilarious (even if it was my car).
sprhck: Sorry 'bout the 2" hose thing, I knew it was a 2.5" or better (up to 6" now, sheesh, I'm not holding that), but it's been awhile since I've eaten smoke.
sprhck: Sorry 'bout the 2" hose thing, I knew it was a 2.5" or better (up to 6" now, sheesh, I'm not holding that), but it's been awhile since I've eaten smoke.
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WOW, look at all the firemen on here..How many of us are there??
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