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Old May 3, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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Okay this should be a simple post, when I bought my house its only source of heat was floor/wall baseboard heaters in most of the rooms of the house. They looked like crap so as I replaced the flooring in the rooms I yanked all of them out.

Currently and for the last year the wires have been sitting there with no baseboards to em, of course I have the curcuit completey disconnected by a electrician while he did my electric setup!. So im going tommorow to get me a new exterior door setup and I though while I have the chance I might as well get those new boards down then my question poped into my head.

Does it really add value to a house to have a secondary heating system? I mean I have the electric heat pump/ac with registers in all room. But I have two large window A/c units and the hookups for those baseboards that could be a additional 2nd ac and heat. So should I spend the 400 bucks to get the boards down or should I just have a electrician take the circuit completely out and snip the wires and do away with the entire system? Im just curious as to if its going to help or be a wastefull choice.
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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If there are two floors, I think it would add value if you could set a thermostat upstairs and one downstairs. Just promote the energy saving costs of being able to adjust the heat settings cuz typical upstairs are warmer in the winter if the sun beats down on it while the d/s is still cool. plus you could turn the one downstairs down at night and turn the one upstairs up. Basically, only heating where you need it.


AS Long as it doesnt look like crap.
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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It is a small investment to make for being able to make one room warmer then another.

If you have these in the living room or family room, you could keep the remainder of the house cooler, and just have these rooms be up to temperature.

I kick myself for not putting down heat matt in the master bathroom. So in the AM, the programmable T-stat has to turn that furnace on to warm up the bathroom before getting up.

If I would have put a heated floor in the bathroom, I would not have to warm up the 60% of the house that runs off that furnace, at least as much.

Zoned heating is the way to go.

The one question, are these 120V or 220 V baseboard heaters ?

If they are 110V, and you are trying to make that room 10* warmer, you might be able to cut hard salami on the meter, while using them.

I know when I am heating the garage in the winter to work on something ( 20's outside, garage is 40, trying to get it to 65 to wax the truck / car ) I could open a deli using the meter head as the meat cutter. I have had $ 300.00 month bills when doing a lot of work out there in DEC, and that is with a 220V single phase electric heater.
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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The ones im using are 120v, and they look like crap on the floor lol. Well my house is 1 story only about 1200 sqft and the pump I got was a 2.5 ton unit which he said would cool/heat a 2000sqft house. I stay perfect warm in the winter and cool in the summer. I will not be using these baseboards or the window ac units, except when good ole American Standard goes out on me.

That is the reason I though about doing the boards so that someone could go well at least in this house I have a 2nd heat/cooling source. But I feel like maybe they wont and I will be wasting my time.
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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If you are keeping them as a backup only, then it is a waste of money.

Not sure about a heat pump, but a furnace with central air, maintained correctly will last 30 + years.
 
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Well i decided after your input SSCULLY that I prob just rid of the entire system. After I went and purchased a 40$ board, I realized that the 36in board is not a stocked item at most stores and has to be special ordered and thats alot more cash.

Case in point if I have to have them made, I would just get the 30's and end up redoin baseboard moldings on the floors so screw it.
Gonna get my contractor when hes over doing the front door to see about disconnecting the electric boards completely.

SS since your a electric guru, If i had the circuits undone and removed from the panel. Then just snipped the existings wires from the wall where the boards were, I shouldn't have a problem leaving those pretty much dead wires in the walls would I?

I mean that would be a nightmare to rip all that sheetrock down all over the house to get the wire out. I know wires can carry some ghosting electricity, * I just made that word up * I think u know what I mean.

I might need to mention that to the contractor? Thanks man
 
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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If you have enough slack in the wires, turn them into outlets in the wall.

This rids the baseboard section of the wiring, and does not leave the wires hanging around, to be accidentally hooked up some day.

Don't know if your house is on a slab, crawl or basement, and where in relationship this is to the panel.

Some crawl houses in the metro area here, the Romex or Bx is run through the attic and back down the wall.

If this is the way your house is, it is very easy to turn them into outlets, as you will have more then enough slack to bring the wire up to the outlet height.
Not so easy to pull it up into the attic, as the romex staples are usually 2 or 3 per stud up in to the attic. You can see why Romex and Bx were done away with in the metro area here, too many home DIY'ers lighting up their houses, thinking they could just pull and tug on that cable like it was a 1/2" rope.
 
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Old May 4, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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What do you mean by accidentally hooked up?

Is there gonna be a problem having dead wires in the house?
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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If someone sees the wires ( not you, might even be after you move ) and hooks them back up to a breaker in the panel.

If you can get the wires pulled out of the panel, and cut off, so they cannot reach the panel, that works also.

Where is the panel at, and do you have a crawl, basement or slab ?
 
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