The 90% Lie

Old Apr 2, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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The 90% Lie

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...umber-claimed/


Facts are stubborn things...Enjoy
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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I guess the new administration changed the gun numbers to their liking. This sort of change is getting old, quick.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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This is why I like the internet and forums such as this one. Most folks would never have heard the "truth" or read that article.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
This is why I like the internet and forums such as this one. Most folks would never have heard the "truth" or read that article.
Sad thing is, most people won't hear the truth, or read it either. They depend on someone else telling them what to think...
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Quote from the article.
So why would the Mexican drug cartels, which last year grossed between $17 billion and $38 billion, bother buying single-shot rifles, and force thousands of unknown "straw" buyers in the U.S. through a government background check, when they can buy boatloads of fully automatic M-16s and assault rifles from China, Israel or South Africa?

China, I think supply their own weapons.
South Africa, I haven't got a clue.
Where does Israel get the bulk of their weapons?
I'm serious, I always thought we supplied them.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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China, I think supply their own weapons.
South Africa, I haven't got a clue.
Where does Israel get the bulk of their weapons?
I'm serious, I always thought we supplied them.
It’s true we supply a lot of weapons to other countries but it is to their military’s. I believe we also supply the Mexican military with some weapons. The point is Lord Obama and his disciples are lying about the 90%.

What they are trying to portray is that these 90% of weapons in Mexico are coming across the border from America due to Americans having the right to buy weapons. It’s a second amendment thing. Therefore, they want to put further restrictions on a Constitutional right we Americans have based on bogus data.

Fact is it’s only about 17% of these weapons coming from America and that is ONLY the ones Mexico is turning over. My understanding is Mexico is only turning over about 1/3 of these weapons to be traced, therefore that 17% now becomes closer to 5.7%, HUGE difference between 5.7% and 90% but most Americans being brain dead won’t ever find that out and if they did it wouldn’t matter because there would be nobody there to explain that to them and tell them how to feel about it…
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
It’s true we supply a lot of weapons to other countries but it is to their military’s. I believe we also supply the Mexican military with some weapons. The point is Lord Obama and his disciples are lying about the 90%.

What they are trying to portray is that these 90% of weapons in Mexico are coming across the border from America due to Americans having the right to buy weapons. It’s a second amendment thing. Therefore, they want to put further restrictions on a Constitutional right we Americans have based on bogus data.

Fact is it’s only about 17% of these weapons coming from America and that is ONLY the ones Mexico is turning over. My understanding is Mexico is only turning over about 1/3 of these weapons to be traced, therefore that 17% now becomes closer to 5.7%, HUGE difference between 5.7% and 90% but most Americans being brain dead won’t ever find that out and if they did it wouldn’t matter because there would be nobody there to explain that to them and tell them how to feel about it…
I really wasn't trying to argue the point, that just caught my attention. If they didn't have guns, it'd just be a more brutal killing for the victims.
We all know Guns don't kill, People do.
 
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I really wasn't trying to argue the point, that just caught my attention. If they didn't have guns, it'd just be a more brutal killing for the victims.
We all know Guns don't kill, People do.

I didn't take it as you were arguing the point...
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Is it just me, or have the handful of Obama supporters that were gloating and obnoxious as all hell leading up to the election just downright disappeared? Odd...
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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I personally loved Hillary's explanation that the US was responsible for the guns leaving our country for Mexico and the drugs coming into it from Mexico.
Nice to see that Mexico bear's no responsibilty for any of it.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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I hear you, but you've got to wonder. Exactly how important is the truth when we've got a majority of people in this country who have submitted to the government and have decided it's just so much easier to be spoon fed.

The lies have been told. The people telling them know damn well that the spoon fed public aren't going to look any further than what the've been fed.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Is it just me, or have the handful of Obama supporters that were gloating and obnoxious as all hell leading up to the election just downright disappeared? Odd...
I noticed that also. My only explanation is they're internet ninjas. They pop in for a few select threads, do they're dirty work then dissapear into the night. Never to be seen or heard from again.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
Is it just me, or have the handful of Obama supporters that were gloating and obnoxious as all hell leading up to the election just downright disappeared? Odd...
They had to give up their internet connections to afford the new taxes coming on electricity, smoking, mileage, gasoline, working, breathing, flushing, 401Ks, eating at restaurants, cell phones, owning a pet, and everything other chunk of "change" they can tax.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wittom
I hear you, but you've got to wonder. Exactly how important is the truth when we've got a majority of people in this country who have submitted to the government and have decided it's just so much easier to be spoon fed.

The lies have been told. The people telling them know damn well that the spoon fed public aren't going to look any further than what the've been fed.
Unfortunately, you are correct my friend. Americans unfortunately are too worried who won the NBA game or the NASCAR race. Until that is changed, it's goodbye liberty.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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I noticed that also. My only explanation is they're internet ninjas. They pop in for a few select threads, do they're dirty work then dissapear into the night. Never to be seen or heard from again.
Oh my, what do I have to do to get that as a forum title around here? I have been a member since God was a boy, can I please get "Internet Ninja" as my forum title?
 
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