As some of you may know I am planning on changing jobs. And about the truck well I'm not 100% sure but I don't care about that right now!

My problem is with the jobs. I talked to everyone know and they say get out of there. This sounds easy but I have been there for 5 years and have good friends. My boss is a real cool dude. He is almost my age and we have become friends over the years. The pay isn't that bad, it is around 30 dollars more per week than what I would be making at the new job and I do have a dental plan on top of that.

The negative thing is that the big bosses just don't give crap about our department, they need us like crazy but they really don't show it. For one example we have been crying for a year now about updating our systems. They kept on waiting and waiting, right to the point where my system died and I lost lots of work! And they expect me to redo all the work at 1/10 of the time needed!

I am stressed out and at nights I start shaking and sometimes I get really pissed at nothing. I am sort of going on a burn out! At age 23 (birthday today) this makes me feel weak and stupid! I am sick and tired of feeling not important and such! I say to myself "I feel like a replaceable production employee, so why not have less stress and be one?" This is what I'm doing! Becoming a production employee for IBM, actually my girlfriend who works for IBM feels more important to her company than I do for mine! I know I'm not an ******* at my job, I do important work but people just don't care!!!

I can't stand the sight of the bosses anymore, they make me sick and doing stuff for Mopar is a real hassle, they got to be the stupidest company I've ever worked with!!! Plus I got the "human resorces" woman after me because I make more cash than her. She's telling everyone that I have a HUGE salary that I do not deserve!!!!! I make less than 30k per year, my job is supposed to be 35K. I'm a graphic designer and an Instruction Sheet technician. I do not get payed for overtime because they are so un-organized that I'll have 2 months of nothing to do and then 3 months of 17 hours per day, weekends etc... The work load is so un-organized "it ain't funny". The Marketing director is an A$$ and doesn't even know how to use a color photocopier, seems to me at 120K per year you should have the intelligence to use a photocopy machine!!!

One person told me I should just tough it out becuase I have been there for a long time and I have dentist plan and such.

But what should come first, my well being or my job? I mean IBM isn't all bad not much of a pay difference but they DO pay overtime!!! My girlfriend has been making almost 200 bucks more than me per week!!!!

I guess I'm just looking for words of encouragement because it isn't easy to give up a job of so long (even if you have been hating it for the past year or so).

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I feel your pain, because I'm in the same boat. I've been kissing a$$ for almost ten years as well. But promised myself after college, I take that next step and give my two weeks.
I might suggest a vacation to blow off some steam. When you come back and the B.S. returns. Give your notice; just don't burn and bridges on the way out. Look on the bright side, that IBM job is alot less stressful and pays more. I personally don't think you have anything to lose.

 

Eph1fifty

Sorry to hear about your situation. You need to look out for No. #1 (You). If you do not take care of yourself, you might not have a job to worry about. You will need to weigh all your options. From your description, it sounds pretty bad at your present position. It sounds like its just a matter of time before some major conflict occurs between you and the management. One thing you have in your favor is youth. You have plenty of time to build on a career. Leaving a company on your own always looks better than being let go. Good Luck on whatever decision you make!!!


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Steve,

Move on. I am a firm believer in "work to live, not live to work." If the job is causing you that much stress, look elsewhere! I have seen your work and I can tell you that here in Atlanta you would get paid more than $17.50 per hour as a Graphic Designer! (don't know about the job market up there) If you need a reference, let me know.

Myself, I just turned 31 on Friday and I've been considering leaving my job to pursue some "dot-com" stuff full-time. I don't have the job stress, I have the "if I don't do this now, before we have children, I'll never do it" stress...

Steve

 

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It's not about money, its about peace of mind and you can't put a price on that.
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ATST hit the nail on the head. Granted it takes cold hard cash to pay the bills. After the bills are paid, you need to be happy or none of the material things are worth anything at all.
My wife and I just went through all this after our first child was born. Trying to balance child time, both working full time, and having a life outside work. It turns out we are both much happier with her working a couple days a week instead of full time. Working a job that she used to be manager of. You know what ....everyone is much happier, and we don't even notice that we don't have 2 full time incomes. Money is not everything.

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LOL!

If it weren't for ATST and Raoul, I'd quit reading this board.

 

First of all - HAPPY BIRTHDAY! And, Happy belated to webmaster & Happy Tomorrow Birthday to MNFORD99! We should get a birthday card exchange going!
Ok - I'm about to give my 10 cents worth as I never do anything in a small way!
GET OUT OF THERE! Run - like the wind! DON'T look back! Wanna know what you mean to your comapny? You are worth as much as the paper they use to hire your replacement! I know because I work for the WORST HMO (don't hold that against me!) in all of New York State! It's called Univera & they are cold, ruthless & money hungry! THEY don't care about employees & even worse, they DON'T care about patients! BUT - if you are GREEN with dollar signs on you & LOTS of ZEROS then you are worth something!
I have been there 4 years. I am 1 of 2 out of 43 pharmacy technicians who has the training to make IV's & chemotherapy compounds. AM I appreciated? NOT AT ALL!
Get this - in order to bring the new hires "up to scale" these girls were given pay increases to $8/hour. A few had been there 3 DAYS! After 4 years, with my specialized training, I earn $8.29/HOUR! My gross wages are exactly that - GROSS! $17,000/year BEFORE taxes. And yes - I am single so I don't have someone helping me get by other than family if I really need help. Trust me, I have at times!
As my ID implies, I love cows. Two summers ago, I took a job on a dairy farm to be able to work around them. I was a calf feeder on the weekends - had over 100 calves to feed every weekend as I was working full time for this idiot company. I made a FEW CENTS less/hour than I did at my "real job" & had none of the aggravation! Plus, I was offered a full time position as a milker. They had a 540 head herd that was milked 3 times/day. THAT PAID THE SAME AS I MADE! Now you may wonder what benefits I would have had to give up to milk cows. NONE! They had a 401K, medical & dental & 2 weeks vacation!!! The ONLY reason I didn't take it was because I was worried I couldn't physically get 540 cows milked in 8 hours. Hey - it takes time to talk to each cow, sing to them & in general make them feel appreciated! Too bad MY employer didn't take as good care of me as I did of those cows! Anyhow, I declined the job & arthritic knees or not have been kicking myself ever since. I could have progressed to herdswoman & that includes a house - RENT FREE for as long as I kept the job!
In short, I get sick every Sunday night knowing I have another week to TRY to get through. I look for jobs all the time BUT drugstores pay minimum wage. To make what I make now I'd have to work in a hospital & do swing shift, hoildays & weekends. I did that for 8 years & that was why I quit. I am too old to go back to that.
I am always in trouble for "bucking" management. I am currently trying to get a face to face meeting with the President of our reigion to complain to him & to MAKE him give me answers. I may very well be fired for this but I really don't care anymore. I'd ALMOST be better off on welfare but in reality, I enjoy working as long as I have a decent employer. I am also trying to get a union in there - not at all popular with management! Good! They can leave a dental impression - my way of nicely saying "bite me" to them!
I know it's scary to move on but look at it this way. Your dignity, sanity & health are things you can't BUY anywhere, no matter how much you earn. If you lose them, you can't replace them. You can always get a job & even if it's not your ideal job you can hang on till the best job/employer comes along. In the meantime, you will be able to hold your head up high!
Keep this in mind as you decide - "doing well is the BEST revenge" & getting out of there is 1 way to do just that!
Good luck & take care!

 

Eph1fify-
There is more to life than work...just remember, everyone needs to take time and relax. I am 21, going on 22 tomorrow (10/3), since I have been out of school for architectural drafting, I have changed jobs and I am much happier. My previous employer was too pushy, and wanted things done the same way...lots of work, with very little time. Now I work for a very prominant engineering firm (offices all over the United States) and I am much happier, and am allowed the extra freedom to move, and try out somethings that come to mind.
I would say move on, and take a chance...My old company that I worked for is now trying to get me back...but I am not going to do that. Your old company will probably try the same thing, when they realize what you did for the company. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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WOW!!! Thanks for the kind words. Makes the move easier for me. I did quit once before but they sucked me back in and promised many, many things but after a few months everything went back to usual. So this time I'm gone for good and nothing will make me go back!

Thanks Steve (Webmaster), That meant a great deal for me!

Again, thanks for the kind words

P.S I had a news flash I work from home because my work computer died and I went in to the office to get some more work and my boss told me something. He said that his boss asked him to take care of 2 more web sites. We have like 5 catalogs to do this month plus 4 Instruction sheets and more. My boss told him "Fine but don't blame me if some of the catalogs are going to be late for SEMA". The boss just laughed, just laughed, that's all??? Kinda makes me feel I work for the right department?

 

Let me tell you about work.
I have worked so many hours in my lifetime that if you divided them into 40 hour weeks, and then by 52 weeks a year I should be at least 10 yrs older than I am.
I have worked from $3 hr all the way up to $12 hr. Done everything from dig horse poo, managed restraunts, to forman at a wiring harness Co. I have almost always had two jobs at the same time. Plus was single more than married (actually being single was less stressful) and a single mom for close to ten years all together. Oh yeah and during that time, I studied martial arts three nights a week, till an accident fractured both my arms, and messed up my back. ..and I still worked. My arms hurt so bad, they actually didn't hurt anymore when I was lifting stuff, and I am not one to sit around waiting for a check. (want to know the weather? ..it's gonna rain soon) I also put myself through a year and a half of college with my own money. I worked as hard and as long as I had to.
But because I work like a dog, getting jobs is easy, I have to turn jobs down all the time.
I found myself getting burnt out a couple of years ago and when I did my income tax, I discovered that even though I had made more money than I ever had in my life, the govt and daycare sucked up about 60% of it.
I told my boss I was giving her till May (three months notice) then I was done. She couldn't beleive it, cuz I had just bought my first 'new car' ever (97 F150 ofcourse) and it took some convincing, but when I say something, I do it.
I got my afairs in order, and by the time I quit, I had only a few utilities, house and truck payment.
I shoulda married for money, but I didn't, he made less than me, but he lets me do what I want, and now I work whenever and where ever I please. I still make almost what he does. It's not about money, its about peace of mind and you can't put a price on that.

Wanna know my favorite job? digging horse poo,... why? (quote me) because "Horse poo doen't pretend to be anything else!"

 

You gotta do what makes you happy.

I work for an extremly large worldwide computer software company and at 37 I am very close to changing jobs. To work for a company with less than 20 employees Which is also based out of Atlanta by the way). I was very happy with my job until my company was purchased a couple of years ago. Large companies are different and I am sure Mopar is no exception. Lots of office politics and crap like that. To my company I am nothing more than an Employee ID. They let people go and hire new people at a whim. With the company president getting a 550 Million dollar bonus last year in addition to his salary. Oh yeah, and he just bought the New York Islanders hockey team. Most companys like that have profit as the ONLY driving factor. You have to make a profit, but does a small profit increase justify the way you treat a lot of employees? With companies this large, the people who make these kind of decision don't really know the emplyees. Especially at the lower levels.

I agree with our illustrious webmaster that 30K is barely adequate for a good graphics designer. I know I have seen positions here in Jacksonville for more than that and the cost of living is really not that high here. I'm sure it's less than Atlanta.

Good luch in whatever decision you make.

 

Hi. Thanks again

Cost of living here is very high!!! 15.96% taxes on everything even at less then 30K income tax is at 40%. It costs 235$ per year per vehicle and the gas is at 3.06$ per gallon.

 

Your friends are your friends irregardless of where you work. I moved with my company when they closed the plant in Minnesota, and I only did it for opportunity and $$. There is nothing else a company can give you.

They pay you a tenth of what you're worth and will cut you loose if it suits them. Loyalty is gone! The most important considerations are the people you work with and job satisfaction. Everything else should be secondary. Also remember that each job has its ups and downs, and management can change rapidly.

If you really hate being an employee in general, get together with people you trust and discuss starting your own company. Life is a risk worth taking!

Listen to your heart, but weigh your options without emotion. I had my first interview in four years a couple of weeks ago, and it went badly. I wanted out of this company so badly, that I forgot to collect myself before answering the questions. Ciest la vie. It will all work out for the best.

 

Update:

I didn't get a call from IBM yet. Someone told me that if you have been working in a office, it is harder to get into a factory.

I almost had a breakdown the other day and I took on a engineer that I was doing a job for. He was calling me slow "Hello I don't have a computer anymore..." I gave the sucker so many choice words (I won't repeat here, don't want to get kicked out) that he hung up on me and told the upper management. the big boss guy called my boss. My boss gave him crap (alot of it).

And from now on, he told me to finish at 4:30, doesn't matter if it is late or not. Not to worry and if anybody gives me crap just hang up on them...

I can't wait to quit but I'm not as "in to it" as I used to be and it is working...

 

eph1fifty, first of all, stay in the good graces of your immediate boss. Sounds like he's on your side and will make a great reference for you. I would still make the break if I were you. You are young but life's too short to be stuck where you are miserable. My story is a bit different. I spent 21 years with a fantastic company, Southwest Airlines. Was paid well, great insurance benefits, fly free, and had a profit sharing/retirement plan that made me almost a millionaire when I retired at age 45. Why did I leave such a great company? I just did not want to do it another 20 years. I always wanted to teach high school!
So that's what I am doing now. The airline retirement funds subsidized my pay cut for a couple of years but I don't touch it anymore. I have summers and holidays off with my wife, who is also a teacher. One of my retirement benefits is flying free for the rest of our lives so we travel a lot.
Life is very good.
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