I think the punches while she was down were excessive. The rest I feel she deserved. She obviously has no respect for authority at 15 years old. If her parents did what should have been done before all her previous criminal activity's started this may have been avoided. maybe her parents should get the smack down also for not teaching her better. Sadly, the officers career is more than likely over.

 

The family of the kid might feel the same way, however, if they feel they are providing adequate discipline and she is out stealing cars then they have failed and it's time to let someone else handle it.

 

The sad truth is you can tell your kids not to do things until your blue in the face.. Once they meet up with there friends most likely more than half of them will forget what you told them. It's a no win situation...



James

 

Telling them not to do something and raising them to know why they should not do something are two different things.

 

Lot's of comment here like She probably made her mouth go ... Hate's authority etc etc.

Maybe it was a case of mistaken identity (It Happens) No charges for GTA have been published!

When you go in a Holding cell: You have to remove your shoes and belt for safety reason's ... Maybe she was in the process of kicking her shoes off and one got caught up on her jean's and flung at the Officer?

The Officer is going to stand up in Court and say she was a Model Prisoner? Not a chance ... him and his Brief are gonna use every trick they have!

The girl being rude etc may explain his action's but doesn't excuse them.

In any case, The guy shouldn't be a Police officer if he cannot control his
temper. He is in the wrong Job ...

Bet hes sitting in court thinking Why didnt I just close the god dam door!

 

Definite aggreance on this part. I'm very pro-law enforcement, but it looks like this guy got way carried away. IMO he should get suspended until he can prove he's shaped up.

 

Discipline is one thing...That is regular abuse/brutality/asshattery or whatever you want to call it.
Paying the price for a crime is one thing, being severely beaten because some punk is power tripping is another.

 

Teaching kids right from wrong is ftw.
If you cannot, apparently you fail as a parent, and that isn't the child's fault.
Hopefully, I will not fail. Hopefully, nobody here will. We won't know for a long time.
I know that I learned, and when my friends wanted to do some stupid things I went along with it anyway even though I knew better, but I wouldn't have gone as far as stealing a car.
We all have our dumbass moments, some things people just have to learn on their own.

 

Yes this is true, but even if you teach them right from wrong you still control what they are going to do.. You can teach your kids all you want about drugs and show them and tell them how bad they are, but when it comes down to it if they REALLY WANT to do it there is nothing you can do to stop them..


James

 

I hope that suspension is not on the taxpayer's dime.. Like most of them are...


James

 

So your saying that your parents failed because you would go out on stupid moments with your friends..???

Everybody makes dumb choice's yes, but what I was saying before is you can tell your kids not to do drugs, or drink but they might be a time that they won't listen..

If your son/daughter went to a party that had alcohol, and you let them go, there will be at one point that they will drink some.. Might not be the first time or the second but I'm sure it will happen. Even though you told and teached them not to drink they will break down and do it..

I don't want to even go there but my daughter is only 5 months old, when she old enough to date boys my head will be turning, but anyway her mother can teach her how sex is wrong until marriage and all that stuff but when she goes away it could be anyone's game.. Her mom can teach and explain everything but with that again at some point she will break down and make her own choice...


James

 

Some of you guy's are nuts. It was obviously excessive and he deserves to be suspended for a long time or be forced to take a desk job for a long time.

Sure she probably deserved it, but not from a cop. Cops jobs are to serve and protect citizens, not beat up bad guy's.

He's not serving and protecting very good if he causes this girl to be freed of her crimes and given a bunch of money by a court, just because he let his anger get in the way of doing his job correctly.

 

okay I shall issue an applogie for my earlier statement. I just watched the video, I have worked for a min to high control youth prison. 13-23 years old anywhere from 15 days to life without parole going to be tried for death when 18.

I guess after spending nearly 20 hours straight there I was in a hissy and made that statement. Upon viewing I tried to put myself in his and her position, seemed to me as if the girl kicked her show off. It looked as if the officer had given her a direct order to remove the shoes. She did not look to be arguing but the tape didn't show any of the rest of the video.

In her side as she was told to remove the shoes she might have felt it was best to keep her distance from the officer, which im sure he mentioned before he told her to remove them. The camera did not for the viewers show before the use of force. So determining if she was spitting on him or cursing. Which I don't know what state that is but cursing at an officer would not be grounds for use of force.

From his point of view, if the girl would have reached down to pull off her shoe the shoe would have been in her hands and he could have prevented a possible assault with shoe. lol I remember a partner once got hit with a shoe on SEG. But he ordered her to stay abck and her move her shoes so she flipped them outside the door.

Okay the amount of force reasonably nessecary to reach a Correctional Objective means you go in and take her by the arm and position her agaisnt the wall. There should not be much fight from a 15 year old girl. Even if she was spitting you could have made sure her head was positioned in a way the spit would not land on you or your partner.

This officer will face probley assault charges, and do time for this offense. Not only will he be punished by the system. Also the girls ppl can carry out legal charges on him individually and probley own half of what he has and ever will have.

The dude used little judgement in his use of force, seemed to me like hes the type of dude who wouldn't pounce on a 6'0ft 220lber in that cell and get his *** beat, so he takes the best shot he has.

Dude im sure the little girl was mouthly and the actually entire tape will show all of her actions. But hes going to have to explain the entire use of force, as soon as he entered the cell she turned and gave him her back which is a sign of abandonment of force, he had her to the wall with complete control. He is fried guys, don't even have to make any more statements on this one. He over used force on this one, the courts don't care if your ego was stabbed by a 15 year old cusing you.

Its our jobs to take a cussing thats what I get paid for, if a inmate wants to cuss me I do not go over my head, I have told them before that if they felt like they wanted some. All they had to do was just swing, that gives me the right to do everything he done to her legally. I defend myself up and to death if nessecary. This girl did not swing nor was a imminet threat identified IMO.

 

 

That was awesome!!!