President: URGENT, pass stimulus NOW!!!

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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President: URGENT, pass stimulus NOW!!!

We've been hearing for the past few weeks how urgent it is that the congress pass a stimulus package. At the end of last week the senate passed a package for the president to sign. Members of both houses said that it would have been nice to be able to read what they were voting on in this eleven hundred page stimulus plan. Instead, they voted to approve a package that they hadn't read. I'm not sure if this bothers anyone else, but the government has been using this tactic for decades and it costs us, the taxpayer, dearly.

I remember in '06, we were promised the most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history.

House Democrats Top 100 Broken Promises

Last election a majority of the voting public were told that their vote would bring hope and change. Massive deficit spending is a change? Now, we hope that this massive spending will help and won't cripple future generations?

This year we were promised transparency, which I guess we're supposed to "hope" for at some point.

LA Times-Missing from Congress' stimulus negotiations: transparency

Now that congress has hashed out the details and passed this massive spending stimulus package, which we were told had to be done as quickly as possible to save us from certian catastrophe, we're just going to have to get a few days closer to certian catastrophe. It'll be a couple more days before Obama signs off on the mortgaging of our future, as he's taking the holiday weekend off. I'm sure that he deserves the time off. He has been hard at work as our president for almost a month.

NY Post-WHAT'S THE RUSH?
'URGENT' $TIMULUS ON HOLD FOR BAM'S WEEKEND OFF


We're all out here supposedly flailing around incoherent because were in the worst economy in history and the president has choosen to fly back to his home in Chicago. At a time when people are living in their cars and just want their own bathroom and thier own kitchen, our president and our first lady are having a Valentines dinner in a swanky Chicago ristaurante. We'll have to wait just a little longer to be saved by this enormous spending package. We'll have to make some sacrifices, just like our president and his family are.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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I absolutely compare a Democrat to a Communist. It all started with Lyndon Johnsons Great Society where the working class was given the task to support the deadbeats too stupid and lazy to support themselves. They have only made the give away program worse over the decades and the burden of the working class is getting too heavy for most. I look for a major revolt of the taxpayer and soon. It will be bloody and that's a major reason you can't buy ammo anymore- there isn't any to buy despite major increases in production. But the Republicans are not clean either. Remember the Contract with America BS? They were suppose to get big Government out of our life and end the give aways. It's worse after the "contract" than it was before. Our representatives that we waste our time voting for have life and pony pucks confused. They apparently lose common sense just as soon as they enter the city limits of DC. Maybe it's something in the water. What I know for sure is that we are going to pay dearly for this "Urgent" stimulus package. Look for major inflation meaning your money won't buy in the future what it did today. Look for the US dollar to lose it's value as a world wide currency and when that happens, this country will be in bankruptcy like it has never seen before. If you thought the Depression was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. And our kids will have to be the ones to straighten this mess out if at all. Frankly, I think we are seeing our own destruction caused by greed and power of a few. While I have an extremely low regard for any Democrat, a Republican isn't much better. I shoulda voted for Ron Paul.....or Alfred E Neuman.


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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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I did vote for Ron Paul. Shame on you....
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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And again.. the local resident libs will justify it all... really sad.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Seeing that picture, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I told myself I would give Obama a chance, but I estimated things would turn out this way. Using the old ideas from the past that didn't work in the 30's to get us out of Depression.

Now we have H.R. 45 staring us in the face.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Here is the next 8 - 20 year plan that many of your elected officials will not yet admit to:

Step 1: Use the financial crisis to justify an increase in federal power and spending, and to decrease public confidence in capitalism and a democratic republic.

Step 2: Nationalize troubled industries and the banks; provide funds to any states that will relinquish state's rights and powers; futher increasing the number of people that rely upon Washington DC and centralized government.

Step 3: Further infringe upon the right of the people to bear arms. Use scare tactics and the mainstream media to push the agenda to the sheeple.

Step 4: Chip away at the remaining parts of the Constitution. Ostracize, censor or jail opponents.

Step 5: Eventually come clean that the real plan all along has been to introduce an orderly transition to our new economy and government based on the New Socialism.

It's much more fair, after all. Its also pretty much what most kids are being taught in school, so the children probably won't mind too much.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
Here is the next 8 - 20 year plan that many of your elected officials will not yet admit to:

Step 1: Use the financial crisis to justify an increase in federal power and spending, and to decrease public confidence in capitalism and a democratic republic.

Step 2: Nationalize troubled industries and the banks; provide funds to any states that will relinquish state's rights and powers; futher increasing the number of people that rely upon Washington DC and centralized government.

Step 3: Further infringe upon the right of the people to bear arms. Use scare tactics and the mainstream media to push the agenda to the sheeple.

Step 4: Chip away at the remaining parts of the Constitution. Ostracize, censor or jail opponents.

Step 5: Eventually come clean that the real plan all along has been to introduce an orderly transition to our new economy and government based on the New Socialism.

It's much more fair, after all. Its also pretty much what most kids are being taught in school, so the children probably won't mind too much.
No!!! Say it ain't so!! Everyone knows GW took away all our rights!
So the libs say it is wrong to wire tap foreign phone numbers... but it is ok to do all you have listed... yeah... makes sense
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
So the libs say it is wrong to wire tap foreign phone numbers... but it is ok to do all you have listed... yeah... makes sense
What everyone except conservatives said was it is wrong to tap an American's phone line WITHOUT A WARRANT. The issue was communications between US phones and foreign phones, not foreign phones. You are either totally ignorant or a liar. Which is it?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by momalle1
What everyone except conservatives said was it is wrong to tap an American's phone line WITHOUT A WARRANT. The issue was communications between US phones and foreign phones, not foreign phones. You are either totally ignorant or a liar. Which is it?
I am a lot more reasonable than you. Your all butt hurt and worried about tapping phone lines that your to stupid to realize that your boy is taking away far more and meaningful rights from us. And it has just begun. Stand back and look at the big picture. Quit focusing on meaningless things that don't affect 99.99999% of any citizen and focus on things that will affect the majority of us. Most of the laws that infringe on our rights has been written by the democrats.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
I am a lot more reasonable than you. Your all butt hurt and worried about tapping phone lines that your to stupid to realize that your boy is taking away far more and meaningful rights from us. And it has just begun. Stand back and look at the big picture. Quit focusing on meaningless things that don't affect 99.99999% of any citizen and focus on things that will affect the majority of us. Most of the laws that infringe on our rights has been written by the democrats.

Warrantless invasion of privacy is hardly trivial. Then again, the point was, your point was fabricated, no one was complaining about wiretaps on foreign phone numbers. My butts OK, but thanks for your concern, I wish you would stop thinking about my butt though. BTW, it's too stupid, not to stupid, you'd think if you were calling someone stupid you'd learn American English.

I dare you to back up your last statement.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by momalle1
Warrantless invasion of privacy is hardly trivial. Then again, the point was, your point was fabricated, no one was complaining about wiretaps on foreign phone numbers. My butts OK, but thanks for your concern, I wish you would stop thinking about my butt though. BTW, it's too stupid, not to stupid, you'd think if you were calling someone stupid you'd learn American English.

I dare you to back up your last statement.
And as a true dumb **** would... you deflect the argument and start picking on spelling. Sorry I got so under your skin that you had to resort to that. How pathetic. The program was to track calls (by computers, not people until more info is available) of calls that originate in America to foreign numbers in terrorist countries. Do you call them? If not, why are you worried? Something is fishy here. Do you have something to hide? As I said, that won't affect the vast majority of us. So who the hell cares? Yet you think it is OK to limit guns and ammo. You think that it is OK to bypass the 1st amendment and support the fairness doctrine. I could go on and on how you support the erosion of our rights and you think it is OK. But your stuck on this wire tap thing that almost no one in this country has anything to worry about. move out of moms basement and get a life dude. Your one hurting unit.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
And as a true dumb **** would... you deflect the argument and start picking on spelling. Sorry I got so under your skin that you had to resort to that. How pathetic. The program was to track calls (by computers, not people until more info is available) of calls that originate in America to foreign numbers in terrorist countries. Do you call them? If not, why are you worried? Something is fishy here. Do you have something to hide? As I said, that won't affect the vast majority of us. So who the hell cares? Yet you think it is OK to limit guns and ammo. You think that it is OK to bypass the 1st amendment and support the fairness doctrine. I could go on and on how you support the erosion of our rights and you think it is OK. But your stuck on this wire tap thing that almost no one in this country has anything to worry about. move out of moms basement and get a life dude. Your one hurting unit.

It's not spelling, you used the wrong word, yes Chris, it's an entirely different word, again, learn English.

It doesn't matter how many people are affected, wrong is wrong. The Constitution gives me a right to privacy, plain and simple.

Again, you're fabricating, show me where I've supported the fairness doctrine or that it's OK to limit guns or ammo. You're wrong as usual, check my posts, I'm always supportive of gun rights and I've never commented on the fairness doctrine. So what other erosion have I supported, in your mind?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by momalle1
It's not spelling, you used the wrong word, yes Chris, it's an entirely different word, again, learn English.

It doesn't matter how many people are affected, wrong is wrong. The Constitution gives me a right to privacy, plain and simple.

Again, you're fabricating, show me where I've supported the fairness doctrine or that it's OK to limit guns or ammo. You're wrong as usual, check my posts, I'm always supportive of gun rights and I've never commented on the fairness doctrine. So what other erosion have I supported, in your mind?
You support obama. Therefore by inference, you support every thing I have said, and every democrat intrusion of our rights. Is it that hard for you to understand? And again... to resort to grammer in a post just shows how desperate you are with the lack of argument. So sorry for you. You can't even man up and say what a flaming liberal you are. But your arguments show it. Yet your so worried about wire taps. Again... what are you hiding?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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And again.. the local resident libs will justify it all... really sad.
No they won't Chris. They'll change the subject and beat you down to their level where they will plunder yer but. It's hard to have a match of intelligence with an unarmed person and win. Remember the Titanic? There were a lot of folks that refused to get in lifeboats because someone said it was unsinkable. They are still on the Titanic as they followed it all the way to the bottom of the Atlantic. Some folks will never see the light and others will follow blindly all the way to their death. Even my preacher now agrees with me, God did put certain folks down here because he has a sense of humor.
 
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Global meltdown, 2009 is going to be a bad year for all nations. Maybe in four or five years, the economy might turn around. But, with the threats we have with countries and groups of people that want to eliminate us, we have a task ahead of us.
 
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