Blacks only voting for Obama because he's African American?

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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I would vote for the black guy in a heartbeat. The republican party has stepped away from it's base. I would love to have a back to the basic conservative in office. I am much more of a conservative than I am a (R) by the way. I hate liberals and I hate hippies.
You say you would vote for the black guy but...you hate liberals because they don't think like you do. Most Blacks are liberals.

What are the major differences to you between an (R) and a conservative?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
You say you would vote for the black guy but...you hate liberals because they don't think like you do. Most Blacks are liberals.

What are the major differences to you between an (R) and a conservative?
We dislike black liberals as much as the white liberals. Why do you want us to hate you? Seriously, its as if you want us whites to dislike you. Why?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
We dislike black liberals as much as the white liberals. Why do you want us to hate you? Seriously, its as if you want us whites to dislike you. Why?
I know most whites don't dislike or hate me but, there are many who do because of conditioning and ignorance because of how I look.
No other reason.
Most Blacks I know don't hate or dislike whites unless they had a bad experience.
Only reason.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
Its your call. Start posting those that have said they would never vote for a black man.
Thats what I thought.. All talk, poor reading comprehension skills, and full of opinions based on your twisted view of life...
You have no black friends which you say is not by choice. I have never thought about how many white,black,asian, etc friends I have because my friends have always come in all colors. But once again put your money where your mouth is.... I will... we can open an ebay escrow account, you name the amount, I will double my deposit.. I can post 5x as many pictures as you sharing events in my life over the last 35 years with friends of all colors. Starting and my parents home to my home today..
What ya got besides a whole lot of mouth..
Also, before you post about my hate for the so called "white man" how would my wife and grandfather fit in this?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Thats what I thought.. All talk, poor reading comprehension skills, and full of opinions based on your twisted view of life...
You have no black friends which you say is not by choice. I have never thought about how many white,black,asian, etc friends I have because my friends have always come in all colors. But once again put your money where your mouth is.... I will... we can open an ebay escrow account, you name the amount, I will double my deposit.. I can post 5x as many pictures as you sharing events in my life over the last 35 years with friends of all colors. Starting and my parents home to my home today..
What ya got besides a whole lot of mouth..
Also, before you post about my hate for the so called "white man" how would my wife and grandfather fit in this?

Maybe I'm missing something, but what would pictures of you with people of all colors have to do with anything. You're trying to "prove" you aren't or are something over an internet discussion forum.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
We dislike black liberals as much as the white liberals.
Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
Most Blacks are liberals.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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OD I think you are missing the point. It's not a color issue, it's an ideal issue. A white Liberal disliking a black Conservative is the same thing. It doesn't mean the Liberal dislikes the Conservative because of color.

It can go both ways. You can't say that because he dislike liberals due to ideals that it also is due to color. I'm not fond of liberal ideals no matter who holds them; I disagree with their premise not their color.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
Maybe I'm missing something, but what would pictures of you with people of all colors have to do with anything. You're trying to "prove" you aren't or are something over an internet discussion forum.
No, I'm having fun on an internet discussion forum with someone who has the ability to type faster than I can.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
It can go both ways. You can't say that because he dislike liberals due to ideals that it also is due to color. I'm not fond of liberal ideals no matter who holds them; I disagree with their premise not their color.
If some whites are liberal and some are not you can say some whites are ok because some are conservative.
If most blacks are liberal and you don't like most blacks ideals and premises the result is the same.
You don't like most blacks be it color or ideals.

Im not speaking of just political dislike....superior feeling dislike from when you know you are right?
Then that makes most of them dislike back.

Remember, most blacks are moderate conservatives Republicans could draw them if they supported civil rights.
Ever look at Mccains civil rights record?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
If some whites are liberal and some are not you can say some whites are ok because some are conservative.
If most blacks are liberal and you don't like most blacks ideals and premises the result is the same.
You don't like most blacks be it color or ideals.

Im not speaking of just political dislike....superior feeling dislike from when you know you are right?
Then that makes most of them dislike back.

Remember, most blacks are moderate conservatives Republicans could draw them if they supported civil rights.
Ever look at Mccains civil rights record?
Instead of me asking you what you mean by "civil rights"...Why not share with the class what he has or has not done...
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
You say you would vote for the black guy but...you hate liberals because they don't think like you do. Most Blacks are liberals.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
I know most whites don't dislike or hate me but, there are many who do because of conditioning and ignorance because of how I look.
No other reason.
And you know this how?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
If some whites are liberal and some are not you can say some whites are ok because some are conservative.
If most blacks are liberal and you don't like most blacks ideals and premises the result is the same.
You don't like most blacks be it color or ideals.

Im not speaking of just political dislike....superior feeling dislike from when you know you are right?
Then that makes most of them dislike back.

Remember, most blacks are moderate conservatives Republicans could draw them if they supported civil rights.
Ever look at Mccains civil rights record?

I'm interested to hear the problems you have with McCains Civil Rights record.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scott1981
And you know this how?
Well lets see...
I had to ride on the back of the bus, stand up and even get off for whites.
I had to walk in the street when they approached. I had to use different public facilities, couldn't go to many business or had to use the rear.
Mostly when I was younger, whites would sometimes say negative unprovoked things to me starting with "you people" or ending with "your kind." I got used to the aggression and always played passive up until I was about 16. I was a pretty good kid and dressed well growing up so I had none of it coming. My parents didn't teach racism they tried their best to teach me to avoid it and never let it be the reason, so I had no chip on my shoulder. Never had trouble with the law. Never was suspended from school. Always had a job since 11.

Only thing it could have been was because of how I looked.

Now it's more subtle.

I can see the change in people from a block away sometimes.
Body posture changes. Some try and speak ebonics? Start to talk down until they find I have a better command of the english language than they do.
Throw money on the counter...little things.
Older women pull the purse closer...lock car doors as I approach. It's so funny because im pretty sure I have more in my wallet than they probably have in the bank on a good day.
Usually I find the less some people have, the worse they act.
Most warm up as they get to know me.
So did you.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
I'm interested to hear the problems you have with McCains Civil Rights record.
A few things....

In 1983, McCain voted against the Emergency School Aid Act, which authorized grants to local school districts to help them offset the costs of school desegregation. [ 1983 House Vote #162, 6/7/1983 ]

McCain voted against 1983 legislation establishing the third Monday in January as the federal holiday marking King's birthday. Back home in Arizona, he supported Gov. Evan Mecham's decision in 1987 to rescind an executive order creating a state holiday for King, but later reversed his position.

In 1985, McCain voted against a bill to strengthen sanctions against minority-ruled South Africa because of its policy of apartheid.

In 1998, McCain voted against the Civil Rights Restoration Act requiring institutions receiving federal funds to follow antidiscrimination laws, upheld by Congress despite a presidential veto.

McCain supported an amendment by Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas) that prohibited federal contracts to be based, in part, on race, color, national origin or gender.

He favored repealing a provision of the Brady Bill requiring a seven-day waiting period for handgun purchases to ensure buyers aren't mentally ill or don't have a criminal record.

During the 105th Congress, McCain opposed forgiving student loans up to $8,000 for public-school teachers who work in underserved communities for a specified period and opposed expanding after-school programs. However, he supported an amendment offered by Sen. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.) that would have provided federal funding for vouchers for students to attend private schools.

McCain Defended Controversial Spokesman Richard Quinn, McCain's who called the MLK Holiday "Vitriolic and Profane." Richard Quinn, was a South Carolina "strategist" for McCain in the 2000 campaign. In a Partisan View column, Richard Quinn wrote, "King Day should have been rejected because its purpose is vitriolic and profane. By celebrating King as the incarnation of all they admire, they [black leaders] have chosen to glorify the histrionic rather than the heroic and by inference they spurned the brightest and the best among their own race. Ignoring the real heroes in our nation's life, the blacks have chosen a man who represents not their emancipation, not their sacrifices and bravery in service to their country; rather, they have chosen a man whose role in history was to lead his people into a perpetual dependence on the welfare state, a terrible bondage of body and soul."

Quinn has also advocated electing David Duke, and sold T-Shirts through his magazine celebrating Abraham Lincoln's assassination. [Partisan View, Southern Partisan, Fall, 1983; Partisan View, Southern Partisan, Winter, 1989, PFAW Release, 2/17/00] [Spartanburg Herald-Journal, 12/23/05; Vanity Fair, 11/04]

McCain Defended Quinn as 'Respected' and a 'Fine Man." Despite Mr. Quinn's writings and history of racial insensitivity, McCain defended him as a 'respected' and 'fine man' and refused to fire him. [Associated Press, 2/18/00; New York Times, 2/8/00]

McCain Repeatedly Voted Against Raising The Minimum Wage. In the senate, John McCain voted at least eight times against measure to increase the minimum wage. [HR 2, Vote #23, 1/24/07; S.Amdt. 44 to S. 256, Vote #26, 3/07/05; S.Amdt. 128 to S. 256, Vote #27, 3/07/05; S.Amdt. 3079 to S.Amdt. 2951 to S.Con.Res. 101, Vote #76, 4/07/00; S.Amdt. 1383 to S. 1429, Vote #239, 7/30/99; S. 96, Vote #94, 4/28/99; S .Amdt. 3540 to S.Amdt. 3559 to S. 1301, Vote S.Amdt. 4272 to H.R. 3448, Vote #183, 7/06/96]
 
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