how dare the court!
I feel that the sex of a person and the color of a persons skin is who they are, therefore it would be to discriminate if they were not allowed equal rights. Homosexuality is a behavior, the United States can not regulate your behavior if it does not break the law, but to bring this behavior into the light and make it acceptable is wrong.
I feel that the sex of a person and the color of a persons skin is who they are, therefore it would be to discriminate if they were not allowed equal rights. Homosexuality is a behavior, the United States can not regulate your behavior if it does not break the law, but to bring this behavior into the light and make it acceptable is wrong.
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Social views and laws aren't the same, they dont have to be and sometimes they definitely shouldnt be the same.
So why can't you marry your cousin or your niece?
Last edited by Norm; Oct 14, 2008 at 05:27 PM.
Funny, your conservative predecessors used to use the same exact arguments against interracial marriage. You lost then because you made no sense, and you'll lose again. Gays getting married has no affect on you or the morality of society. You guys really need to get over your holier than thou attitude.
I know that my religious preference is the reason for me viewing this as I do and few will agree, but this is a discussion forum and since we hardly see eye to eye I figured one more opinion would not hurt.
Government does _not_ exist to perpetuate arbitrary morals, it exists to protect us from REAL threats. Arbitrary morals are the same things that keep women covered up, kept women from voting, etc.
People need to be judged from the most objective perspective possible. This means that government must refrain from persecuting specific groups.
Behavior is a broad term, and behavior is not inherently bad. Inherently bad behavior might include the act of murder. Indifferent behavior includes eating, washing your face in the morning, and choosing who to have sex with.
In some states you can
And again, its against social norm to marry within your family (in modern day US) ... but we do it to our pets all the time. Pure breeds of dog are all just cousins/brothers/sisters/parents/whatever. Incest was also OK in the context of royal families.
People need to be judged from the most objective perspective possible. This means that government must refrain from persecuting specific groups.
Behavior is a broad term, and behavior is not inherently bad. Inherently bad behavior might include the act of murder. Indifferent behavior includes eating, washing your face in the morning, and choosing who to have sex with.
In some states you can

And again, its against social norm to marry within your family (in modern day US) ... but we do it to our pets all the time. Pure breeds of dog are all just cousins/brothers/sisters/parents/whatever. Incest was also OK in the context of royal families.
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You can be wed to your second cousin in all states and in about half of the states you can wed your first cousin.
http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriag...s/a/cousin.htm
http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriag...s/a/cousin.htm
Government does _not_ exist to perpetuate arbitrary morals, it exists to protect us from REAL threats. Arbitrary morals are the same things that keep women covered up, kept women from voting, etc.
People need to be judged from the most objective perspective possible. This means that government must refrain from persecuting specific groups.
Behavior is a broad term, and behavior is not inherently bad. Inherently bad behavior might include the act of murder. Indifferent behavior includes eating, washing your face in the morning, and choosing who to have sex with.
People need to be judged from the most objective perspective possible. This means that government must refrain from persecuting specific groups.
Behavior is a broad term, and behavior is not inherently bad. Inherently bad behavior might include the act of murder. Indifferent behavior includes eating, washing your face in the morning, and choosing who to have sex with.
I feel that the sex of a person and the color of a persons skin is who they are, therefore it would be to discriminate if they were not allowed equal rights. Homosexuality is a behavior, the United States can not regulate your behavior if it does not break the law, but to bring this behavior into the light and make it acceptable is wrong.
Pass laws making homosexual activity illegal and I will agree with not allowing same sex marriages the entitlement to the same benefits as heterosexual marriages. Until then, the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution applies.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Last edited by Oxlander; Oct 14, 2008 at 05:55 PM.
Heterosexual courtship is also a behavior. Being homosexual in the United States is not illegal just as being heterosexual is not. To discriminate against one segment of the population without legal justification (aka Laws) is still discrimination. To deprive same sex marriages acknowledgment and eligibilities for benefits afforded heterosexual marriages by the federal government is tantamount to government sanctioned discrimination.
Pass laws making homosexual activity illegal and I will agree with not allowing same sex marriages the entitlement to the same benefits as heterosexual marriages. Until then, the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution applies.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Pass laws making homosexual activity illegal and I will agree with not allowing same sex marriages the entitlement to the same benefits as heterosexual marriages. Until then, the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution applies.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Not at all Scott, and I think more would agree with you than you feel.
Murder, stealing (lrn2speel), assault
And hence your attacks on my spelling shows you have no good argument for the subject at hand. Always a dead givaway.
Your wrong.. plain and simple. Using simple logic. You should try it some time.
BTW... you can try out your gag reflex all you want for all I care... just don't push it in the publics face and try to make it normal. K?
Last edited by chris1450; Oct 14, 2008 at 08:59 PM.
Just because it is accepted by many does not make it normal.
My opinion (not based on any research etc.) is that homosexuality is a form of mental illness.
I will not go further because I do not want to offend. We need to be more accepting of each others differences. The world would be a better place. None of us is perfect.




