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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Insurance premiums would SKYROCKET if all of a sudden the companies collapsed. I bet they'd AT LEAST double to attempt to make up for it.
Probably. I just don't understand how they can "find" $85 billion dollars to bail out AIG, Bear Sterns, etc. and can't find squat to help the average American when in crisis. What a load of crap. But I guess "the fundamentals of our economy are strong." Jeezus. - Og
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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That sounds good in theory, but what happens when you need a doctor? Medicine? Have a car wreck? You've paid your premiums, but your insurance company is out of business. The government is not going to let an insurance company or a bank fail. Always in the past, other insurance companies have stepped in and "bought" the failing company. AIG is too big for a purchase, so to keep from having infrstructure failure, they are making a "loan". It is painful and it is caused by mismanagement, but really, there is no other option if you want the country to not panic.
Good points, but it still pisses me off. Just doesn't seem right when the taxpayer is handed a bunch of receipts after the government determines where the money goes. - Og
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Saving mega huge companies like that DOES help us, indirectly, but it helps. Well, maybe not helps, but it makes it so the US of A doesnt go into "The Great Depression: Part II"

Depends how you define fundamentals. I would think it'd be the basic principles of the economy, and those are strong. It's that we've got greedy little bastards running some things, they need to be shot.
Believe it or not, I've heard we're already in a depression. - Og
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Good points, but it still pisses me off. Just doesn't seem right when the taxpayer is handed a bunch of receipts after the government determines where the money goes. - Og
I didn't say I liked it. It's just that the alternative would be worse. You say it doesn't affect the average American, but it does. I guarantee you, that if AIG failed, it would affect you and me in ways we have never tought of. In my mind, one of the problems is that they have allowed these companies to keep merging and buying out others until they are too big.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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In my mind, one of the problems is that they have allowed these companies to keep merging and buying out others until they are too big.
Agreed, and no regulation doesn't help. - Og.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Probably. I just don't understand how they can "find" $85 billion dollars to bail out AIG, Bear Sterns, etc. and can't find squat to help the average American when in crisis. What a load of crap. But I guess "the fundamentals of our economy are strong." Jeezus. - Og
It isn't exactly an $85 billion bailout. They basically took over the company and are screwing them to the wall on the interest rate (currently around 14%). In any case, I'm still against it!

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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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It isn't exactly an $85 billion bailout. They basically took over the company and are screwing them to the wall on the interest rate (currently around 14%). In any case, I'm still against it!

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It would shock the hell out of me if AIG "really" pays that money back. Almost willing to bet, in 2 years when that loan is due, the government will be the new owners of the nation's largest insurer. - Og
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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It would shock the hell out of me if AIG "really" pays that money back. Almost willing to bet, in 2 years when that loan is due, the government will be the new owners of the nation's largest insurer. - Og
And I cannot wait to see how ineptly the guberment runs AIG... Regardless of who takes office.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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It would shock the hell out of me if AIG "really" pays that money back. Almost willing to bet, in 2 years when that loan is due, the government will be the new owners of the nation's largest insurer. - Og
In two years there won't be an AIG. The government is mandating that AIG splits up and sells off the component parts.

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