Obama is dreaming

Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Obama is dreaming

He's not even in office but he's already talking about not leaving for the next "8 to 10 (??) years".

"Today on CBS's Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that "the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.

"And it's important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are."

The notion that Obama will be dealing with world leaders for eighjt-to-ten years, possibly up through July 2018, suggests that either (a) he believes that not only will he be elected and re-elected, but the 22nd amendment will be repealed and he will be elected for a third term, OR (b) he was speaking casually and just meant two terms.

(I'm guessing b.)"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...-obamas-b.html
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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A question for you, BM---if McCain spoke in this manner, whould he be dreaming to? Or is the Obamanator just using positive-sounding rhetoric---the same that McCain would do?


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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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If McCain had said that, the Obama camp would be all over him for sounding senile and old because two terms is only eight years (not ten).

If Bush had said that, the left wing kook fringe would say he was going to cancel the 2008 election!

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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The whole reason Obama is over there is because McCain called his bluff. Now Obama is using it to propel his campaign. Sickening indeed.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OgRedd
"Damned if you do, damned if you don't." - Og
True indeed
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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With a Democratic House and a filibuster proof Democratic Senate and at least two, possibly three Supreme Court seats vacated, there doesn't seem to be any reason why term limits could not be overturned, or possibly a five year term proposal for the Presidency.

I think that was all Obama meant.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim
If McCain had said that, the Obama camp would be all over him for sounding senile and old because two terms is only eight years (not ten).

If Bush had said that, the left wing kook fringe would say he was going to cancel the 2008 election!

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
With a Democratic House and a filibuster proof Democratic Senate and at least two, possibly three Supreme Court seats vacated, there doesn't seem to be any reason why term limits could not be overturned, or possibly a five year term proposal for the Presidency.

I think that was all Obama meant.
Many of these folks need to sit at your knee and have you interpret the campaign rhetoric (as well as the gibberish). I, for one, am glad that you can help these folks out in this area. They need some schoolin'.

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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According to the Red side of this here forum:

When McCain speaks, it is open, honest, forthright, and lacks any, absolutely any, kind of alterior motive or campaign rhetoric.

When the Omanator speaks, it is full of hidden meanings and alterior motives, dark and secretive, and can be only interpreted by those with a special decoder ring--and the Red side then feels left out.

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by referee54
According to the Red side of this here forum:

When McCain speaks, it is open, honest, forthright, and lacks any, absolutely any, kind of alterior motive or campaign rhetoric.

When the Omanator speaks, it is full of hidden meanings and alterior motives, dark and secretive, and can be only interpreted by those with a special decoder ring--and the Red side then feels left out.

Tim C.
Welcome to politics
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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my biggest thing about odama is he is very inexperienced. he has only been in congress for about 4 years, and i dont feel its a good idea to hand the free world over to someone inexperienced. Its like handing over the keys of a ferrari enzo to a 17 year old and letting him take it for a spin. I know mccain is old, and he would go slow in the enzo, but at least we wont end up in a ditch or around a tree.

Thats my 2 cents.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by referee54
According to the Red side of this here forum:

When McCain speaks, it is open, honest, forthright, and lacks any, absolutely any, kind of alterior motive or campaign rhetoric.

When the Omanator speaks, it is full of hidden meanings and alterior motives, dark and secretive, and can be only interpreted by those with a special decoder ring--and the Red side then feels left out.

Tim C.
That is definatly a flip since Watergate and the Iran Contra affair.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
That is definatly a flip since Watergate and the Iran Contra affair.
Those scandals were during Presidencies, this scandal is during a Presidential campaign.
 

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
That is definatly a flip since Watergate and the Iran Contra affair.
Yep, I remember Watergate..."I am not a crook." Well, truth be told, I guess he was, wasn't he? Paranod so-of-a-gun tarnished his presidency---got us out of Vietnam and opened the doors to China, all the while lying his **** off.

Haldeman, Erlichman, Mitchell, and Dean

Nixon---paranoid about the communists in the'50's (read the Checkers Speech) and paranoid, of all things---McGovern in 1972. Ouch.

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