To drill or not to drill?
Why? When Bush SR. did this, oil was $10 a barrel. Why does it suprise you that now that it is around $140 a barrel that things changed? Think a little deeper, K?
Slippery bunch of eels! LOL
I knew there was nothing of value to it. Just a political move to cast the Republicans in a better light in an election year. A move that many won't see through, and will make those that don't try to- blame the democrats for not taking steps to lower oil prices (If they don't sign the law)- temporary though that may be. And, they will forget that Republicans sat on their collective ***** for 3 years as gas got more and more expensive. Now, 4 months from the election, it's time to "take action".
Bush is smarter than I thought. No matter how the Democrats vote, they're screwed. Vote to continue the ban, America's across the board hate you, because the idea of gas getting affordable again, stirs the interest of anyone making less than $100K a year. Or, vote to all the drilling, and **** off every tree hugger in America.
Pretty sneaky... Excellent strategy though.
But, on the lighter side, oil did drop $7.00 a barrel today on "economic fears". The sharpest decline in 17 years...
Who knew that the price of oil & diesel skyrocketing, causing everything that moves, to be more expensive to operate, and everything you use or consume (food, clothing, etc.) to be more expensive (because it gets hauled there on the back of Diesel-powered trucks @ $4.79 a gallon). Who knew Wall-Street bartering, Big-Oil reducing the amount of fuel on hand, and OPEC failing to increase output, would hurt many American's in their wallets?
I knew there was nothing of value to it. Just a political move to cast the Republicans in a better light in an election year. A move that many won't see through, and will make those that don't try to- blame the democrats for not taking steps to lower oil prices (If they don't sign the law)- temporary though that may be. And, they will forget that Republicans sat on their collective ***** for 3 years as gas got more and more expensive. Now, 4 months from the election, it's time to "take action".
Bush is smarter than I thought. No matter how the Democrats vote, they're screwed. Vote to continue the ban, America's across the board hate you, because the idea of gas getting affordable again, stirs the interest of anyone making less than $100K a year. Or, vote to all the drilling, and **** off every tree hugger in America.
Pretty sneaky... Excellent strategy though.
But, on the lighter side, oil did drop $7.00 a barrel today on "economic fears". The sharpest decline in 17 years...
Who knew that the price of oil & diesel skyrocketing, causing everything that moves, to be more expensive to operate, and everything you use or consume (food, clothing, etc.) to be more expensive (because it gets hauled there on the back of Diesel-powered trucks @ $4.79 a gallon). Who knew Wall-Street bartering, Big-Oil reducing the amount of fuel on hand, and OPEC failing to increase output, would hurt many American's in their wallets?
Well, as mentioned, it would be 10 years before any new drilling produced anything, so at best your gas prices might go down in 10 years, but I doubt it, and I'll tell you why: We have plenty of oil. What we don't have plenty of are refineries. THAT is what they should be building!
The other negative point to new drilling is that most spots would be expensive to drill. That creates a catch 22; if oil became cheaper because of new drilling, the new drilling would no longer be cost effective, and they'd shut down the rigs.
All this will really do is make some fatcats wallets fatter. True story.
The other negative point to new drilling is that most spots would be expensive to drill. That creates a catch 22; if oil became cheaper because of new drilling, the new drilling would no longer be cost effective, and they'd shut down the rigs.
All this will really do is make some fatcats wallets fatter. True story.
On 1/22/2001 when Bush took office the average price of gas was $1.511/gal.
On 1/6/2007 when the Dems took over Congress the price of gas was $2.354/gal.
On 7/14/2008 the price of gas is $4.164/gal.
So 6 years of Bush gave us a $.843/gal price increase.
18 months of Dems in Congress gave us a $1.81/gal increase.
Yet you say it is the Republicans fault for the gas prices. Care to explain you logic here?
Simply, yes. They'll be miles away and won't be visible from shore. Ironically, if people would turn around on some of those scenic beaches, they'd see tar residue piled several feet high from oil spills caused naturally by offshore earthquakes.
Well, as mentioned, it would be 10 years before any new drilling produced anything, so at best your gas prices might go down in 10 years, but I doubt it, and I'll tell you why: We have plenty of oil. What we don't have plenty of are refineries. THAT is what they should be building!
The other negative point to new drilling is that most spots would be expensive to drill. That creates a catch 22; if oil became cheaper because of new drilling, the new drilling would no longer be cost effective, and they'd shut down the rigs.
All this will really do is make some fatcats wallets fatter. True story.
The other negative point to new drilling is that most spots would be expensive to drill. That creates a catch 22; if oil became cheaper because of new drilling, the new drilling would no longer be cost effective, and they'd shut down the rigs.
All this will really do is make some fatcats wallets fatter. True story.
This will have no effect on the actual drilling, because of the environmentalist lawsuits. Currently, there are several areas off of Alaska and California that ARE open to drilling- the leases have been sold. Unfortunately there is something like 15,000 lawsuits that have to be adjudicated first. If more areas are opened, multiply that figure by at least tenfold.
Where it may help, is one of the MAIN reasons that oil is so high: the speculators. Every time a dictator in the middle east farts, the speculators drive the price up. When news of increased supply, whether 10 years off or not, may curb the outrageous speculation going on.
Edit: oops. sorry Benny, just read that your last part was basically the same as mine about the speculators.
Where it may help, is one of the MAIN reasons that oil is so high: the speculators. Every time a dictator in the middle east farts, the speculators drive the price up. When news of increased supply, whether 10 years off or not, may curb the outrageous speculation going on.
Edit: oops. sorry Benny, just read that your last part was basically the same as mine about the speculators.
We don't add up to much.
Since its a speculative market, prices will go down. People are bidding up the price of oil and trying to buy it "cheap" for 10 years from now when they think it will be $200/bbl. We can thank Clinton for letting speculators into the market by the way. Previously, only those in the industry were allowed to speculate. They also had to take delivery. Now anybody can speculate, and they only have to put up as little as 5% cash up front.
And I agree with building more refineries, or at least up the output capacities of existing ones.
BTW I cannot remember any type of oil spill from drilling operations being reported, big oil shipping disasters yes, but not drilling. I cannot see how this is going to ruin tourism. This is 2008, not 1972, drilling has become more controled. Let them explore, most likely in 90% of the areas they drill, it will be non profitable and that will be the end of it.
OK wave your magic wand and come up with a new energy source. we need time to figure out this new magic source so why not use what we have now until we do have something better
"everyone has to cooperate"
That seems impossible. We can't seem to get 3 people to cooperate

But I like that plan.
Was a different point in time with different pressing concerns.
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If it takes 5 years to get any oil out, which I don't believe it does, why is that a bad thing? Wouldn't that give more time to come up with viable alternatives?
I'm not the smartest guy around so, could you help me understand how it would be more efficient to just find a completely new source of energy when just about all of us are using vehicles that burn pertoleum, of which we know there is more to be had? In addition to the vehicles we use there are many other things that we rely on every day that are derived from oil. Here in the northeast, a lot of people heat their homes with heating oil. Is the alternative for our transportation going to be the same for our heating?
We need money. This money that is being "burned away" in Iraq would have otherwise been spent on oil for the American consumer? I don't think so. The money comes from investors. The democrats, with whom you are sharing an increasing number of talking points with, are proposing taking profits from "big oil". It seems to me that "big oil' is in the prime position to fund the research needed to come up with viable alternatives and make a fortune doing so. Our governemnt isn't there to make prices for commodities cheap, but one of their rolls is national defense. I'd rather the government "burned away" money in Iraq and other fronts in the war against terrorists than try to fund innovation.




