did we really land on the moon??

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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I think we should push to go to the Moon, and hell, anywhere else for that matter. Right now these are only small steps we're taking into space, and while they may not seem like much now, they'll lead to bigger advancements in time.
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but how it going to the moon doing anything ? Its done, we got it, we can do it. Now its a waste of $$ IMO.

Hubble ? All for it

More sattelites ? I'm game. Exploring space ? Heck ya ! Going to the same damn rock over and over again to hit golf ***** off of ? Drive around in a special man made buggy ? Not so much. Lets focus on other aspects of space exploration. I don't consider it exploring with the amount of times we have been up there. Just me. Lets try landing on a much farther hunk of land, whichever the feel that should be. Maybe start thinking about ways to get probes and what not out the some of the different moons on different planets.

 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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I agree with ya. If anything though, I would think another moon landing similar to the 60's would definitely build up some public support/funding for more space exploration. It would get people excited about space again.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
100%

but how it going to the moon doing anything ? Its done, we got it, we can do it. Now its a waste of $$ IMO.

Hubble ? All for it

More sattelites ? I'm game. Exploring space ? Heck ya ! Going to the same damn rock over and over again to hit golf ***** off of ? Drive around in a special man made buggy ? Not so much. Lets focus on other aspects of space exploration. I don't consider it exploring with the amount of times we have been up there. Just me. Lets try landing on a much farther hunk of land, whichever the feel that should be. Maybe start thinking about ways to get probes and what not out the some of the different moons on different planets.

The argument I've heard for going to the moon again is to use it as a stepping off point to other planets in the future.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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wow our names are a lot alike. I wouldnt have named myself that if I had known you had the name first.
Yeah, it kinda freaked me out when you joined and started posting. But its no biggie.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
The argument I've heard for going to the moon again is to use it as a stepping off point to other planets in the future.
Yep, its easier to start the journey to Mars from the moon than earth. In fact I read somewhere that they hope to start building a moon base by 2024, assuming we can get back to the moon by the 2020 target date.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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There are minerals on the moon. Will it ever be feasable to collect then.
I'm no tree hugger, but at some point the surface of the earth will resemble Mars
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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There are minerals on the moon....
Exxon wants drilling rights but, Bush is concerned whether he can lay that much pipe.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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There are minerals on the moon. Will it ever be feasable to collect then.
I'm no tree hugger, but at some point the surface of the earth will resemble Mars


I remember reading that they theorize using Rail Gun technology to move materials back and forth between the Earth and the Moon.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
Exxon wants drilling rights but, Bush is concerned whether he can lay that much pipe.

W..
I don't know what to say. It'd be a hell of a pipe
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:04 AM
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i found this.

1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air.

2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?
1. He didn't really slice the ball, he just hit it to the right of straight because it was akward/hard to hit with a space suit on.

2. This footage was actually kind of a fluke. The camera was remote controlled from earth, with something like a 17 second delay. To get the LL taking off, the operator had to guess when to pan up, and how fast to go, 17 seconds before it actually happend. This is why the LL isnt centered in the frame.

Originally Posted by MercedesTech
After Challenger, and then Columbia, the "people" at least in Nasa's eye, have turned on them. people often argue that there is "no need" to risk astronauts lifes anymore. That this whole "space thing" is a joke and a waste of money.

We aren't going back to the moon (at least anytime soon) when we can send a machine that'll land on it and perform any experiment needed with out risk of human life.

Nasa has now become focused on both the different possibilities with the "Space Station" and with the new rover on Mars.

When it comes down to it, IMO, we haven't gone back simply because the "people" don't care for it, no one is pushing for it, and the cost is so astronomical, i think it would really become mind boggling, something we couldn't even wrap our little heads around.
-Challenger and Columbia did taint NASA's image, but it is also the fact that we have been going into space for so many years and so many people have been there. Where as there has only been 9 missions that landed on the moon.

-Two satellites are going to be launched by the end of the year that will map the surface of the moon. This means that by 2015 an autonomous vehicle will land on the moon, and by 2020, humans.

-The space station is a dead end. The Space Shuttle is being retired by 2010, and the U.S. will stop going to the ISS by 2015.

-You're right, there hasn't really been a need to go back to the moon. As of lately, NASA is trying to get Americans back interested into space. Another reason is that NASA has either given away, or tested on all of the rocks from the Moon, creating a demand for Moon rocks.

FOR EVERYONE BTCHING ABOUT WASTING MONEY ON GOING INTO SPACE, THERE'S SOMETHING THATS AN EVEN BIGGER WASTE, ITS CALLED WELFARE. IT PISSES AWAY MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO LAZY, OR TOO HIGH TO GET A JOB.
 

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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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FOR EVERYONE BTCHING ABOUT WASTING MONEY ON GOING INTO SPACE, THERE'S SOMETHING THATS AN EVEN BIGGER WASTE, ITS CALLED WELFARE. IT PISSES AWAY MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO LAZY, OR TOO HIGH TO GET A JOB.
the state of kentucky tried to start drug testing people on welfare about a year ago. it never passed but it would be great if it did.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Yep, its easier to start the journey to Mars from the moon than earth. In fact I read somewhere that they hope to start building a moon base by 2024, assuming we can get back to the moon by the 2020 target date.

Finally, something BigMan and I agree on.

That's why we need to go to back to the moon. Escaping the moon's gravity isn't nearly the challenge that escaping earth's gravity is. Launching manned-missions (Mars) from the moon would be better. They might even make more sense than launching from Earth orbit.

Further, we'd have to have some sort of defense systems to shoot down any small rocks that could not be absorbed/deflected by the glass/steel/titanium enclosures that the people lived in, and that the equipment was stored in on the moon. Something like a CIWS that can fire in space, and Patriot (which could) for the really good-sized rocks. (They (the rocks) don't all move at 25,000 MPH)

But, that presents a whole different set of challenges, but they are challenges I think we need to embrace if we ever want to step beyond this blue/green/brown ball we call Earth.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
Finally, something BigMan and I agree on.

That's why we need to go to back to the moon. Escaping the moon's gravity isn't nearly the challenge that escaping earth's gravity is. Launching manned-missions (Mars) from the moon would be better. They might even make more sense than launching from Earth orbit.

Further, we'd have to have some sort of defense systems to shoot down any small rocks that could not be absorbed/deflected by the glass/steel/titanium enclosures that the people lived in, and that the equipment was stored in on the moon. Something like a CIWS that can fire in space, and Patriot (which could) for the really good-sized rocks. (They (the rocks) don't all move at 25,000 MPH)

But, that presents a whole different set of challenges, but they are challenges I think we need to embrace if we ever want to step beyond this blue/green/brown ball we call Earth.
Its a different BigMan. Notice the space between the letter g and M. The BigMan you are refering to has no space. (I didnt know he existed when I named myself). When he posts sometimes I read it and think to myself that I didnt post that. Then I realize that indeed I didnt post that.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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... When he posts sometimes I read it and think to myself that I didnt post that. Then I realize that indeed I didnt post that.
So, you are the BigMan we thought you were.

I'd just keep quiet, you would get credit for things you didn't even think or say.

Of course this situation doesn't bode well for (Big Man) at all.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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So, you are the BigMan we thought you were.

I'd just keep quiet, you would get credit for things you didn't even think or say.

Of course this situation doesn't bode well for (Big Man) at all.
Hey Hey Hey. At least I give people on here some entertainment. Isnt that what the GD section is all about?
 
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