Siding?
Siding?
I just bought an older home and need to replace the the aluminum siding that is on it with some new vinyl siding. The house is two stories with the bottom half brick and the top half with siding, if that make a difference. The total area of the siding is right at 1300 sq/ft, maybe a lil less. I have got quotes from a couple of different contractors and they range anywhere from 3000 all the way up to 6000. My question to someone that may know is what is the best siding to go with, I really dont know anything about this so I dont want to get "taken to the bank".
If you have the time do it yourself. I did my garage a while back and it was easy. Looks like a pro did and all it cost was materials and some beers for my brother to help. Check out your home supply stores to see what they have for product. There are many brands out there but really it is all made from the same stuff. See how long each brand says it will last and if it comes with any sort of warrantee.
Yeah there are several spots that are dented and I dont want to paint it. I know that would be cheaper, but we are doing alot of work to the house so I just want to go ahead and get it over and done with.
Here's a breakdown ( N.E. Ohio pricing)
Vinyl siding .044(thickness) - 40.00 - 43.00 per square(sq)
Install 75.00 per sq
1300 sq ft = 13 sq x 43.00 = 559.00
13 sq installed @ 75/sq = 975.00
Trim pieces ( j-channel, soffit, outside corner pc's., etc.)500.00
So basically were at 2000 and change for material and install
Say around 700.00 to remove all existing siding and prep. So if you were quoted 3000.00 I'd say that's pretty fare. Carefully inspect the structure once the siding has been removed. Any dark area may be an indication that there is or was water infiltration. This may have jeopardized the integrity of the structure. If you can hit it with a hammer and it holds up to that, then don't worry about it. A couple additional pointers while the siding is off :
1. Foam inject, caulk, or insulate any gaps that you notice
2. House wrap or Tyvek is a good draft stop also if you have the time. If the installers are willing to install for you, don't pay more than 300.00 for material and labor
Any good installer will be knowledgeable in the fundamentals of flashing. It is so, so, so very important that this is done correctly. If not, you will, more than likely, have leaks which you may or may not notice initially but over time you will.
In Ohio a good premium siding will be around a .046 thickness and have a foam backer to it. Norandex Reynolds has a product known as Polar Wall. This siding has a 3.5 - 4.0 r value and also adds superior sound proofing. However, this product also runs around 130.00/sq but is well worth it.
For your application(KY), a .044 thickness would be sufficient. Norandex, Alside, or Kaycan are the leaders in the vinyl siding industry. Kaycan is the leader globally.
Good Luck
Vinyl siding .044(thickness) - 40.00 - 43.00 per square(sq)
Install 75.00 per sq
1300 sq ft = 13 sq x 43.00 = 559.00
13 sq installed @ 75/sq = 975.00
Trim pieces ( j-channel, soffit, outside corner pc's., etc.)500.00
So basically were at 2000 and change for material and install
Say around 700.00 to remove all existing siding and prep. So if you were quoted 3000.00 I'd say that's pretty fare. Carefully inspect the structure once the siding has been removed. Any dark area may be an indication that there is or was water infiltration. This may have jeopardized the integrity of the structure. If you can hit it with a hammer and it holds up to that, then don't worry about it. A couple additional pointers while the siding is off :
1. Foam inject, caulk, or insulate any gaps that you notice
2. House wrap or Tyvek is a good draft stop also if you have the time. If the installers are willing to install for you, don't pay more than 300.00 for material and labor
Any good installer will be knowledgeable in the fundamentals of flashing. It is so, so, so very important that this is done correctly. If not, you will, more than likely, have leaks which you may or may not notice initially but over time you will.
In Ohio a good premium siding will be around a .046 thickness and have a foam backer to it. Norandex Reynolds has a product known as Polar Wall. This siding has a 3.5 - 4.0 r value and also adds superior sound proofing. However, this product also runs around 130.00/sq but is well worth it.
For your application(KY), a .044 thickness would be sufficient. Norandex, Alside, or Kaycan are the leaders in the vinyl siding industry. Kaycan is the leader globally.
Good Luck
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Here's a breakdown ( N.E. Ohio pricing)
Vinyl siding .044(thickness) - 40.00 - 43.00 per square(sq)
Install 75.00 per sq
1300 sq ft = 13 sq x 43.00 = 559.00
13 sq installed @ 75/sq = 975.00
Trim pieces ( j-channel, soffit, outside corner pc's., etc.)500.00
So basically were at 2000 and change for material and install
Say around 700.00 to remove all existing siding and prep. So if you were quoted 3000.00 I'd say that's pretty fare. Carefully inspect the structure once the siding has been removed. Any dark area may be an indication that there is or was water infiltration. This may have jeopardized the integrity of the structure. If you can hit it with a hammer and it holds up to that, then don't worry about it. A couple additional pointers while the siding is off :
1. Foam inject, caulk, or insulate any gaps that you notice
2. House wrap or Tyvek is a good draft stop also if you have the time. If the installers are willing to install for you, don't pay more than 300.00 for material and labor
Any good installer will be knowledgeable in the fundamentals of flashing. It is so, so, so very important that this is done correctly. If not, you will, more than likely, have leaks which you may or may not notice initially but over time you will.
In Ohio a good premium siding will be around a .046 thickness and have a foam backer to it. Norandex Reynolds has a product known as Polar Wall. This siding has a 3.5 - 4.0 r value and also adds superior sound proofing. However, this product also runs around 130.00/sq but is well worth it.
For your application(KY), a .044 thickness would be sufficient. Norandex, Alside, or Kaycan are the leaders in the vinyl siding industry. Kaycan is the leader globally.
Good Luck
Vinyl siding .044(thickness) - 40.00 - 43.00 per square(sq)
Install 75.00 per sq
1300 sq ft = 13 sq x 43.00 = 559.00
13 sq installed @ 75/sq = 975.00
Trim pieces ( j-channel, soffit, outside corner pc's., etc.)500.00
So basically were at 2000 and change for material and install
Say around 700.00 to remove all existing siding and prep. So if you were quoted 3000.00 I'd say that's pretty fare. Carefully inspect the structure once the siding has been removed. Any dark area may be an indication that there is or was water infiltration. This may have jeopardized the integrity of the structure. If you can hit it with a hammer and it holds up to that, then don't worry about it. A couple additional pointers while the siding is off :
1. Foam inject, caulk, or insulate any gaps that you notice
2. House wrap or Tyvek is a good draft stop also if you have the time. If the installers are willing to install for you, don't pay more than 300.00 for material and labor
Any good installer will be knowledgeable in the fundamentals of flashing. It is so, so, so very important that this is done correctly. If not, you will, more than likely, have leaks which you may or may not notice initially but over time you will.
In Ohio a good premium siding will be around a .046 thickness and have a foam backer to it. Norandex Reynolds has a product known as Polar Wall. This siding has a 3.5 - 4.0 r value and also adds superior sound proofing. However, this product also runs around 130.00/sq but is well worth it.
For your application(KY), a .044 thickness would be sufficient. Norandex, Alside, or Kaycan are the leaders in the vinyl siding industry. Kaycan is the leader globally.
Good Luck

for that little sq ft, go with fiber-cement - Hardie/Nichiha/CertainTeed..... check with your insurance company as well if you go this route... between the brick and cementitious fiber-cement, you may get a discount on the fire portion of your homeowner's policy.... personally, I'd get the primed hardie and then have it painted... (unless you know a VERY good installer who has hung alot of pre-finished fiber-cement before.... there are a number of ways they can screw it up)
for that little sq ft, go with fiber-cement - Hardie/Nichiha/CertainTeed..... check with your insurance company as well if you go this route... between the brick and cementitious fiber-cement, you may get a discount on the fire portion of your homeowner's policy.... personally, I'd get the primed hardie and then have it painted... (unless you know a VERY good installer who has hung alot of pre-finished fiber-cement before.... there are a number of ways they can screw it up)
Forgot to mention that if you do not house wrap at minimum wrap the outside corners with either ice and water shield or 15# felt paper.
Last edited by johnnyd2723; Jun 19, 2008 at 06:15 PM.
Agreed
for that little sq ft, go with fiber-cement - Hardie/Nichiha/CertainTeed..... check with your insurance company as well if you go this route... between the brick and cementitious fiber-cement, you may get a discount on the fire portion of your homeowner's policy.... personally, I'd get the primed hardie and then have it painted... (unless you know a VERY good installer who has hung alot of pre-finished fiber-cement before.... there are a number of ways they can screw it up)
I have sided a house with hardi and it turned out fantastic. The vinyl stuff is bad juujuu for the environment. With hardi you can even raise the R value of your home believe it or not. It is easy to work with but you need a good saw blade rated for cutting it and wear a mask because that stuff will tear your lungs up. As for color matching, just paint it and be done with it. It is definately worth the insurance break and resilient as all get out.
There's some tricks/tools to hanging Hardie (I used to work there)...but with regards to cutting, make sure you're upwind of the saw.... the visible dust is not what you really need to worry about... it's the microscopic particles that get inhaled which get into the lungs and contribute to silicosis... but then again, you have to be cutting an awful lot of board daily for a long time... you breathe silica every day already.. it's in the air.
Unless you get a good installer (and check his jobs), you may want to avoid the pre-finished fiber cement - I've seen guys who caulk the butt seams - the caulk has a different sheen than the board and when you walk away at an angle, every joint is highlighted... you just about want to cry... (NO caulk should be used in the butt joints on either primed or prefinished)
If you're considering doing it yourself.. good tools over at http://www.pactool.us/ - the green gecko gauge is great...
Unless you get a good installer (and check his jobs), you may want to avoid the pre-finished fiber cement - I've seen guys who caulk the butt seams - the caulk has a different sheen than the board and when you walk away at an angle, every joint is highlighted... you just about want to cry... (NO caulk should be used in the butt joints on either primed or prefinished)
If you're considering doing it yourself.. good tools over at http://www.pactool.us/ - the green gecko gauge is great...



