Obama on Gas Prices
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Its all Bush's fault!!!!
a. limited refinery capacity --- Gotta be because President Bush
b. Reliance on foreign oil --- definitely President Bush
c. Limited use of US natural resources --- Again, President Bush
d. Limited development of alternative energy sources --- President Bush
e. Increase demand from China and India ---- Damn that President Bush
Come on boys!!!! If your a liberal say it with me now!!!!
It's all about President Bush!!! NOT!!!!!!
a. limited refinery capacity --- Gotta be because President Bush
b. Reliance on foreign oil --- definitely President Bush
c. Limited use of US natural resources --- Again, President Bush
d. Limited development of alternative energy sources --- President Bush
e. Increase demand from China and India ---- Damn that President Bush
Come on boys!!!! If your a liberal say it with me now!!!!
It's all about President Bush!!! NOT!!!!!!
b.) Intentional. They (Big Oil) laid off our workers, and shut our oil fields down because it was cheaper to build ships, and float oil in from Saudi Arabia, than to pay Americans to pump it out of our soil. We benefitted at the pump too, but now that demand is higher, and prices are higher- I think it may be less expensive to do it ourselves. Like I said, if it was putting Americans to work, at least we'd know the price increase was for a good cause, rather than lining the pockets of a few fat-cat investors. But, we can't expect the fox to mind the henhouse, can we?
c.) Screw the tree huggers, drill for that oil. Bush had big cajones on everything else. Let's see them now.
d.) This is because (Conspiracy theory) Big Oil and the Automobile industry were in bed together. Now that AI sees Big Oil doesn't give a damn about their business- I we'll soon see powerful, fuel efficient vehicles come onto the market very soon- they may use very little, or no fossil fuels. I look forward to it. I hear the Chevy Volt may not need fuel at all. Wouldn't that be nice. (Then electricity will jump to $7.00/KW hour, LOL)
e.) Lies! While they have increased in demand, to be sure- most of those people are stil walking and riding bikes outside of (and in China's case, even in) their major cities. Those folks are still poor, and unless they are offering 30-year financing, they aren't selling that many cars over there, and fewer gas guzzlers. It's an emerging market, not one with a highway/roadway infrastructure even comparable to the US, or Europe.
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I agree, pull back a little bit....
But uh, for the record, I'd
it. You know, if I were single...
Get her to buy me a 750iL, and a 6,000 sq/ft house to go with it.
But uh, for the record, I'd
it. You know, if I were single...Get her to buy me a 750iL, and a 6,000 sq/ft house to go with it.
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a.) Big Oil did this. Has a new refinery been built in this country in the last 30 years? Keeping supply a concern, keeps prices high. Not Bush's fault, Big Oil is screwing us there. But, Bush could at least say something- or try to do something to get these guys to loose their grip on our wallets.
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I've seen about 200 bikes ride by already on their way to Port Dover for Friday the 13th. They're calling for about 150,000 people in a town that normally has a population of a few hundred!
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a.) Intentional. Big Oil did this. Has a new refinery been built in this country in the last 30 years? Keeping supply a concern, keeps prices high. Not Bush's fault, Big Oil is screwing us there. But, Bush could at least say something- or try to do something to get these guys to loose their grip on our wallets.
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a.) Intentional. Big Oil did this. Has a new refinery been built in this country in the last 30 years? Keeping supply a concern, keeps prices high. Not Bush's fault, Big Oil is screwing us there. But, Bush could at least say something- or try to do something to get these guys to loose their grip on our wallets.
b.) Intentional. They (Big Oil) laid off our workers, and shut our oil fields down because it was cheaper to build ships, and float oil in from Saudi Arabia, than to pay Americans to pump it out of our soil. We benefitted at the pump too, but now that demand is higher, and prices are higher- I think it may be less expensive to do it ourselves. Like I said, if it was putting Americans to work, at least we'd know the price increase was for a good cause, rather than lining the pockets of a few fat-cat investors. But, we can't expect the fox to mind the henhouse, can we?
c.) Screw the tree huggers, drill for that oil. Bush had big cajones on everything else. Let's see them now.
d.) This is because (Conspiracy theory) Big Oil and the Automobile industry were in bed together. Now that AI sees Big Oil doesn't give a damn about their business- I we'll soon see powerful, fuel efficient vehicles come onto the market very soon- they may use very little, or no fossil fuels. I look forward to it. I hear the Chevy Volt may not need fuel at all. Wouldn't that be nice. (Then electricity will jump to $7.00/KW hour, LOL)
e.) Lies! While they have increased in demand, to be sure- most of those people are stil walking and riding bikes outside of (and in China's case, even in) their major cities. Those folks are still poor, and unless they are offering 30-year financing, they aren't selling that many cars over there, and fewer gas guzzlers. It's an emerging market, not one with a highway/roadway infrastructure even comparable to the US, or Europe.
b.) Intentional. They (Big Oil) laid off our workers, and shut our oil fields down because it was cheaper to build ships, and float oil in from Saudi Arabia, than to pay Americans to pump it out of our soil. We benefitted at the pump too, but now that demand is higher, and prices are higher- I think it may be less expensive to do it ourselves. Like I said, if it was putting Americans to work, at least we'd know the price increase was for a good cause, rather than lining the pockets of a few fat-cat investors. But, we can't expect the fox to mind the henhouse, can we?
c.) Screw the tree huggers, drill for that oil. Bush had big cajones on everything else. Let's see them now.
d.) This is because (Conspiracy theory) Big Oil and the Automobile industry were in bed together. Now that AI sees Big Oil doesn't give a damn about their business- I we'll soon see powerful, fuel efficient vehicles come onto the market very soon- they may use very little, or no fossil fuels. I look forward to it. I hear the Chevy Volt may not need fuel at all. Wouldn't that be nice. (Then electricity will jump to $7.00/KW hour, LOL)
e.) Lies! While they have increased in demand, to be sure- most of those people are stil walking and riding bikes outside of (and in China's case, even in) their major cities. Those folks are still poor, and unless they are offering 30-year financing, they aren't selling that many cars over there, and fewer gas guzzlers. It's an emerging market, not one with a highway/roadway infrastructure even comparable to the US, or Europe.
a. the EPA and the demoncrats are keeping us from building new refineries and from building new nuclear power plants that would also reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. (strike 1 EPA and demoncrats)
b. most of our older oil wells do not produce the capacity now that they did when they were first drilled therefore are not as cost effective as other sites so we need to develop new oil fields to keep our workers working (strike 2 to the EPA and the demoncrats who restrict development of new fields )
c. agreed except he cannot open anwar except by a super majority vote in house and congress because billy the Clinton made it a national park NOT BUSH'S FAULT (strike 3 EPA and demomcrats)
d. electric cars suck a big one and they always will the only way you could sell a electric car to the AVERAGE American, is if it will go 300-500miles on a charge will recharge in less than 5min, and will pull a 35ft camper over a 6% grade at 70+mph and yes if we could run cars on water someone would figure out how to charge 4 bucks a gal for it.
e. crude oil demand does not just mean fuel, all the plastics, synthetic materials, lubrication, and power plants, all require in some part or another oil its not just cars so that is not a valid argument against the fact that china and India have greatly upped their demand.
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Yeah, these Republicans out here seem to have selective amnesia. They "forgot" the deer-in-the-headlights stare Bush had a few months ago when reporters asked what did he think about gas prices soaring above $3.00 and heading towards $4.00 a gallon. He was stuck...
That's how much Bush is on the job.
That's another problem I have with republicans, F-150 XL driving Republicans. They are delusional to the point that they see themselves as "the rich". Newsflash- you guys aren't "the rich". You might be the middleclass (upper, middle, or lower middle class) or, upper lower class- but few of you guys are really members of "the rich". Yet, you gravitate to a party that favors "the rich" as if you are a member. As if you stand to benefit. In reality- few of you do.
You're not rich. Not many rich folks drive F-150's. Homeowner's Associations won't allow you to park them on the street, and they won't fit in many garages. But hey, if rich is a state of mind, more than reality- then you're half-way there. Proceed...
But, back on Bush-
He didn't even know gas had gotten so expensive. That's how much attention George is paying to the plight of his fellow Americans. At least Clinton tried to help us out on his watch, when gas soared to $1.79/gallon and he opened the strategic reserve to help check the "demand" due to supply concerns. But, a Republican will tell you this ended up hurting consumers rather than helping.
Well, it hurt because the refineries reduced output, to curb to sudden surplus- yet no one (or few) thinks this intentional manipulation of the supply of refined fuel by the petroleum industry is intentional manipulation by them, to keep prices high. Well, I commend the effort, and the fact that it shined a light on who is really at fault, rather than the current administration who has sat back and watched the average price of fuel go up by more than $0.25/gallon each year of this adminstration, on average, with the greatest climb happening between March 2006 to Present.
The only way to remove the market from the BS of middle east tensions, and every time Venezuela has a brain fart, is to put those US oil workers back to work in our own oil fields- and stop importing our oil. Watch how OPEC increases their productivity, increases supply, and lowers prices to get our business back. We need to stop being the victim, and get Wal-Marty on their *****. No, you think you're supplying us, but in reality- you work for us. You don't want to play ball, we'll take our business away from you.
If that would happen- witness the result.
That's how much Bush is on the job.
That's another problem I have with republicans, F-150 XL driving Republicans. They are delusional to the point that they see themselves as "the rich". Newsflash- you guys aren't "the rich". You might be the middleclass (upper, middle, or lower middle class) or, upper lower class- but few of you guys are really members of "the rich". Yet, you gravitate to a party that favors "the rich" as if you are a member. As if you stand to benefit. In reality- few of you do.
You're not rich. Not many rich folks drive F-150's. Homeowner's Associations won't allow you to park them on the street, and they won't fit in many garages. But hey, if rich is a state of mind, more than reality- then you're half-way there. Proceed...
But, back on Bush-
He didn't even know gas had gotten so expensive. That's how much attention George is paying to the plight of his fellow Americans. At least Clinton tried to help us out on his watch, when gas soared to $1.79/gallon and he opened the strategic reserve to help check the "demand" due to supply concerns. But, a Republican will tell you this ended up hurting consumers rather than helping.
Well, it hurt because the refineries reduced output, to curb to sudden surplus- yet no one (or few) thinks this intentional manipulation of the supply of refined fuel by the petroleum industry is intentional manipulation by them, to keep prices high. Well, I commend the effort, and the fact that it shined a light on who is really at fault, rather than the current administration who has sat back and watched the average price of fuel go up by more than $0.25/gallon each year of this adminstration, on average, with the greatest climb happening between March 2006 to Present.
The only way to remove the market from the BS of middle east tensions, and every time Venezuela has a brain fart, is to put those US oil workers back to work in our own oil fields- and stop importing our oil. Watch how OPEC increases their productivity, increases supply, and lowers prices to get our business back. We need to stop being the victim, and get Wal-Marty on their *****. No, you think you're supplying us, but in reality- you work for us. You don't want to play ball, we'll take our business away from you.
If that would happen- witness the result.
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Can you avoid the 80k if you do not joint file with your wife and seperate neither of you make over 80k?
Where do they get the 80k from your tax return or your W2?