New 150 MPG Car Developed!

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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New 150 MPG Car Developed!

370HP Saturn Hybrid VUE that gets 150 MPG using a special capacitor so the battery is not directly used, developed by the AFS Trinity Power Corporation.



Here's the video of the news report:
http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/8129227

Here is another article on it:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-9849660-48.html
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Thats very interesting and its no doubt that its only a matter of time before they take over but I personally do not want to give up my power for a motor like that... I would rather pay the gas prices.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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i watched the news last night and there was a car on there that got 300 miles to the gallon!!! They said it could drive from new york to california on one tank of gas! it looked like a space ship or a giant sperm with wheels haha
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Thats very interesting and its no doubt that its only a matter of time before they take over but I personally do not want to give up my power for a motor like that... I would rather pay the gas prices.
Did you miss the part about the 370HP? That Saturn VUE has more power then your truck. I'm sure the same technology could be put in a truck and modified to get more torque. Let's say you lose half the gas mileage at that point. You're still averaging over 75 MPG which is light years ahead of what you could even dream of obtaining in your truck.

Sorry, but this one is a no brainer.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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From the article Duke linked to...
The company tested the XH-150 at Michelin's Laurens Proving Grounds in South Carolina, and claims impressive performance, such as 150 mpg using the EPA Combined Urban/Highway Driving Cycle, a range of 40 miles under electric power, and full range of 400 miles using both electricity and gasoline. Using both gas and electricity, the car's 0 to 60 mph time was clocked at 6.9 seconds, while under electric power it took 11.5 seconds. Its top speed is 87 mph. The company is showing off the XH-150 with the intention of licensing its ultracapacitor technology to automakers.
Top speed of 87? Bleh. I'm sure tweaking can help that some, but I would think a 370HP SUV could break 90mph. I also am curious as to what the 0-60 time is for just the gasoline engine.

The big question is, how much do these "ultracapacitors" cost, how many do you need, and what is their expected lifespan? I'd imagine they aren't cheap, but I'm not an electrical guy, so I don't know. Also, how quickly do the 'ultracapacitors' charge? Could you only use them for heavy acceleration once every minute, 10 minutes, 10 seconds?

It's a step in the right direction though.

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Did you miss the part about the 370HP? That Saturn VUE has more power then your truck. I'm sure the same technology could be put in a truck and modified to get more torque. Let's say you lose half the gas mileage at that point. You're still averaging over 75 MPG which is light years ahead of what you could even dream of obtaining in your truck.

Sorry, but this one is a no brainer.
Some people like gasoline motors and regardless of mileage don't want an electric motor. Hybrids are not for everyone
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
From the article Duke linked to...


Top speed of 87? Bleh. I'm sure tweaking can help that some, but I would think a 370HP SUV could break 90mph. I also am curious as to what the 0-60 time is for just the gasoline engine.

The big question is, how much do these "ultracapacitors" cost, how many do you need, and what is their expected lifespan? I'd imagine they aren't cheap, but I'm not an electrical guy, so I don't know.

It's a step in the right direction though.

- NCSU

Yeah I agree the lifecycle of the capacitor technology would be of the greatest concern. I'm not worried about the top speed of 83 MPH. The combination of electric and motor was giving the 370HP which also put down a 0 to 60 time of 6.2 seconds.

I could live with a top speed of 83 MPH if I was getting 150 MPG. I mean, just do a quick calculation of what you'd save per year in gas if you went from averaging 18 MPG to just 100 MPG, now do that calculation for 150 MPG. Life could be a lot better.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by trueblue83
i watched the news last night and there was a car on there that got 300 miles to the gallon!!! They said it could drive from new york to california on one tank of gas! it looked like a space ship or a giant sperm with wheels haha
I saw that! I would not want to be driving that car in high winds on a high bridge!...........
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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I'm not worried about the top speed of 83 MPH.
I drive a lot and I would estimate that I spend less than 2 minutes per year traveling above 83 mph in a car or truck.
Yep -- for 150 mpg I could work around those 2 minutes every year as well!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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I drive a lot and I would estimate that I spend less than 2 minutes per year traveling above 83 mph in a car or truck.
Yep -- for 150 mpg I could work around those 2 minutes every year as well!
Almost every time I hit the highway I break 80 at least once.

Besides, limiting the top speed of a vehicle to the speed limit would put the show COPS out of business!

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Hybrid Shmybrid..

Compressed air is going to be the fuel of the future. This will surly drive the price of oil back to $5 dollars a barrel..Bring it on!!


Good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-A3XHFT5qc
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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great, awesome. i hate hybrids and you know that thing will be expensive.

air as the "fuel" of the future? cmon, stupid. diesel will be the next thing as soon as the people who can make it happen get their heads out of their a$$es
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefFX4
diesel will be the next thing
You're either kidding or have stock in the diesel commodities. Diesel is $4.50 per gallon right now.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
special capacitor
a flux capacitor?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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You're either kidding or have stock in the diesel commodities. Diesel is $4.50 per gallon right now.
Its more than that bud.
 
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