leave your morals out of my government

 

leave your liberal you have to accept everyone no matter if it disgusts or offends you out of mine

 

this whole gay marriage thing is all about money thats it. gays and lesbians werent living and cohabitating before??? come on..its all about benefits, who gets 401ks, community property, insurance etc... here come the conservative moral police.

 

Sorry if I'm open to others' cultures, beliefs, values, etc. I can't help it. I could have sworn that was one of the principles this country was founded on.

This quote comes to mind..
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it

 

There is that civil union thing that someone came up with. Why can't gay couples work with lawmakers to come up with something else to take care of the monetary elements, if it's about money? It has to be the same tradition that has been exclusive to hetero couples up untill now? It just seem to me that there is a different way to handle gay unions without effecting a long standing tradition in this country, and beyond.

Moral police? So, we should let boys attend all girls schools and vice versa? It's only fair, right?

 

Not necessarily, those schools are private. They can (not) let in whoever they please. If they were public, then that's something entirely different.

 

How horrible! But it is OK to be a heterosexual and cheat---a la Newt Gingrich, who is against gay marriages, right? Well, let's see---it is morally wrong to have a same-sex marriage, but I guess it is permissable to have two affairs, and be married, re-married,---oops remarried again, like Sir Newt?

The only thing Newt contributed to our society is legal fees for the divorces...

I guess there is a hypocrisy here...

Tim C.

 

Well to cynical I do not think it really matters which party u vote for, most of em say one thing to get elected then do the opposite, sorry!

 

you quote that but do you understand it, it cuts both ways wich is the point I was trying to make you say to keep my morals out of your government then I say keep your immorals out of mine.


BTW what does a quote attributed to a 19th century french satirist have to do with U.S. policy

 

I'd like to think that the core of it has to do with one of the foundations of this great country. I may not agree with you and your views, but you have the right to voice and practice them, and I will defend that right the best I can. In this case we can apply it to gay marriages. Hell I think two gay dudes together is gross, but I still believe that they should be able to marry. If a heterosexual couple can, I see no reason why a homosexual couple can't. I see what you are saying with it going both ways, but I'd hate to see what this nation would become if we banned everything certain people believed to be gross/wrong, especially in this case when you don't really have a choice in being gay or not, you just are.

 

and again its opinion you cannot prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are born gay it may be just another cop out besides im not saying that it should be illegalto be gay but it offends me therefore i do not have to accept it, another poster earlier came up with a good point why cant they get along with a civil union for purpose of health benifits and such, hell as far as anything other than health insurance it is just a matter of law that any two people can share property and have rights of survivorship, they just want to rub it in the face of the people that find it dista****l that they marry, if the called it something else they prolly wouldnt have half the uphill battle that they have now

 

Can we atleast agree to use punctuation? I'm just messin with ya man, but it would make it a lot easier to read a longer post like that

I think the problem is that some people, homosexuals included, see marriage not only as having a monetary benefit, but as a symbol of a deep love and commitment for one another. To them a 'civil union' makes it true in the eyes of the law, but it just doesn't have that same effect as a true marriage.

 

First of all sorry about the punctuation, I get going and my brain moves much faster than my stubby little fingers. There! Now as far as the monatay benifit there really is'nt one especially as far as taxes go, and I truly belive that it is more the "little kid syndrome" as follows:

parent: you cant do that.

child: why?

parent: beacuse it is wrong, try doing this.

child: (crying loudly) NO! NO! I WANNA DO IT MY WAY!

parent: now stop I told you to do this instead and it is perfectly reasonable.

child: (at top of lungs) NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

I realize that this is over simplyfing it but if you step back and look at the situation it is very similar. It's not just the fact of making it legal or not, you are trying to tell an absurdly large percentage of the population that their belife in their faith or religion is wrong, it is not just the catholics but most mainstream religions are against homosexual behavior now if the gays were to settle on a comprimise, like civil union I and many more people would probally be more in favor of it being passed into law.


p.s. hope mi pun-cue-ation was beetr tis tyme. j.k.

 

The core foundation of this great country is based on God. Like it or not, that is a fact. The constitution was written specifically with that in mind. Throughout history, laws have been written to protect the morals of biblical law. Again, like it or not, that is fact. I see no reason to take away what has made this country great by diluting the constitution, or changing things to include immoral behavior. Behavior should not be protected. Something you where born with, like skin color is something totally different than behavior. I say that because I am sure one of you will bring up the civil rights act, saying that should include gays. MLK would be rolling in his grave at that thought.

 

I think in this day and age, it's not nearly as one sided as it used to be, but I could be wrong. A lot of people I know of varying faiths/religions really don't seem to care one way or the other, and are like well if they want it, why not let them have it? We have differing viewpoints as to why they want it, but I think at this point we'll agree to disagree.

p.s. much better