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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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I can't believe he doesn't know why they heat the PCV valve. They have only been doing that for what, 17 years now.
That's fine. Then explain it to him - nicely.

And - in the process of doing that, you would also be educating anyone else who does not know, but would like to ( yep - yer lookin' at one )

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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Yea, but those type people fight too hard @ NOT learning something new. NICE, usually never works. They take offense.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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BTW, -Your writings improved MGD. I understood that whole paragraph you wrote earlier.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Yea, but those type people fight too hard @ NOT learning something new. NICE, usually never works. They take offense.
Curious - just what 'type' of people are you referring to?

And - is that yer honest justification to NOT be 'nice'? Seriously? Just because one is 'stubborn'? Do you mean to tell me you do not possess a stubborn streak as well? It's fine to have one - most everyone does.

So - choices are, in my mind: attempt to rectify the knowledge disparity, using as many positive recursions as yer willing to endure, or don't bother, bow out gracefully, and move on.

Lastly - this is a Site Sponsor we are talking about - and AFAIK, there are ( Supposed) to be rules governing the treatment of same.

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
BTW, -Your writings improved MGD. I understood that whole paragraph you wrote earlier.
Thankee, Brewskie!

Yall kin thank ol' Labnerd fer that'n. He dun show'd me th' True Path tae edumactin' meeseff fer fair, aight?


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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
And here you are, bragging about it.

It seems you relish bashing a Paying, Site-supporting Sponsor and apparently continue to do so with impunity because no one seems to be able to rein you in.

I'ts deplorable, despicable behaviour, TJ - especially from a member as senior as you - that I once admired.

It does NOT matter that Crash may be in error or pedals a particular product - he's got a business to run and is after all, only human.

There are ways to communicate technical corrections and other advice in a positive manner - but you choose not to as it's plain you revel in conflict - particularly with this Vendor/Sponsor.

I purposely have not reported those incidents out of respect for you - but that's going to change - right now. Enough is enough.

Sadly - given recent attempts to have other suggestions implemented, I do NOT expect anything will be done by the administration in this case either.

For shame.

MGD out.


so I should allow him to rip people off, buy selling them products they don't need and don't work???



it's a damn shame trolls like you condone people like Derek paying for protection









no wonders all the smart people stopped posting here...



looks like I'll take another break and I probably won't be back
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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so I should allow him to rip people off, buy selling them products they don't need and don't work???



it's a damn shame trolls like you condone people like Derek paying for protection









no wonders all the smart people stopped posting here...



looks like I'll take another break and I probably won't be back
Jerame, we mods have asked you several times to use a little tact in your posts, but it seems that your intent is most often to needle and "get someone's panties in a wad" rather than to help and educate. If you disagree, there is a proper way to post information and opinion. That is what MGDfan is telling you. The site appreciates your knowledge, just not the method you choose to share it.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Curious - just what 'type' of people are you referring to?

And - is that yer honest justification to NOT be 'nice'? Seriously? Just because one is 'stubborn'? Do you mean to tell me you do not possess a stubborn streak as well? It's fine to have one - most everyone does.

So - choices are, in my mind: attempt to rectify the knowledge disparity, using as many positive recursions as yer willing to endure, or don't bother, bow out gracefully, and move on.

Lastly - this is a Site Sponsor we are talking about - and AFAIK, there are ( Supposed) to be rules governing the treatment of same.

MGD
Not so much stubborn, it goes beyond. Well, read the beginning of post 6 thru the start of the second paragraph. That's not stubborn and it's what I'm referring to.

You should never have to sacrifice the fundamental tenants of your beliefs in order to please a site sponsor. They are an individual like any other where respect is earned by the choices they make. Clearly there's a past here that you or I might not be fully aware of. Rather than condemn, maybe we should take that into account.

Just saying.

Report him if you must, but I don't see the need.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Thankee, Brewskie!

Yall kin thank ol' Labnerd fer that'n. He dun show'd me th' True Path tae edumactin' meeseff fer fair, aight?


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Oh! So you write like that on purpose!

 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Oh! So you write like that on purpose!

It makes my head hurt trying to read it, can't imagine what it must do when writing it!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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Mine as well, but it's funny as hell when I'm able to comprehend
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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Not so much stubborn, it goes beyond. Well, read the beginning of post 6 thru the start of the second paragraph. That's not stubborn and it's what I'm referring to.

You should never have to sacrifice the fundamental tenants of your beliefs in order to please a site sponsor. They are an individual like any other where respect is earned by the choices they make. Clearly there's a past here that you or I might not be fully aware of. Rather than condemn, maybe we should take that into account.

Just saying.

Report him if you must, but I don't see the need.
Well-stated, sir.

I would not wish to compromise my long and cherished relationship with you over this.

I was myself the target of the ire of a ( former) Mod a few years ago when I vocally expressed doubts with a vendor's statements. Without quoting or linking to the thread in question, I was told - in no uncertain terms - to CEASE and DESIST.

Given the status of both the vendor and the Mod, one could infer from this directive that there are Indeed bounds placed upon what is permissible and what is not when dealing with an entity that Helps Pay The Bills around here.

If that was true back then - it should still be true now. However, it is no secret to anyone that any sort of genuine equality exists here any longer.

Cheers, Jbrew, old friend. I've said my piece.

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Thanks. I here yuh MGD, - been in sort of the same predicament, -similar anyway.

Genuine Equality should always factor in. Always stand up for what's right, - regardless; as it defines who we are.

I could never be subservient to an ignorant power monger, no matter how much they were padding my pockets lol. - Couldn't stomach it.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
Jerame, we mods have asked you several times to use a little tact in your posts, but it seems that your intent is most often to needle and "get someone's panties in a wad" rather than to help and educate. If you disagree, there is a proper way to post information and opinion. That is what MGDfan is telling you. The site appreciates your knowledge, just not the method you choose to share it.

Thank-you, sir.

That is 110% Correct.

It's all in the approach - and before I git hit wif th' ol' pot & black kettle thang agin, I fully admit that I too am guilty of similar indiscretions and sudden lack of sound judgement - and am trying valiantly to improve. I will occasionally need heppin'...


Originally Posted by tarajerame
so I should allow him to rip people off, buy selling them products they don't need and don't work???

it's a damn shame trolls like you condone people like Derek paying for protection

no wonders all the smart people stopped posting here...

looks like I'll take another break and I probably won't be back
You do appear to react badly to criticism - even though you know you could have responded to Derek totally differently.

So badly, in fact, that you even go so far as resorting to name-calling - me a troll? - that's personally offensive, because I am anything but. However - it may indeed describe your 'post-sniping' behaviour where Crash! is concerned - time and time again ...

I won't push it, but I would very much appreciate it if you would remove that offensive label ( or barring that, if a Mod would do it on your behalf ).

And now, your panties are firmly in that 'wad' yer so fond of seein' others in discomfiture (how's it feel, by the way?), and yall want to take yer ball and go home. You really should re-read what you posted - it may in fact sink in just how utterly childish it appears to everyone else.

C'mon, TJ, put yer big-boy pants on and get past this. And this here "TROLL" will even be the first one to buy yall a 'er three.

But I have never, and WILL never call you derogatory 'names' (unless it's in jest, lol) despite what you did. You've helped me too much over the years for that.

Originally Posted by TJ The Sourpatch
no wonders all the smart people stopped posting here...
^^^ Whoa! Congratulations! You've just managed to Insult the Entire Current Registered Membership of this site - Including all of yer friends! Outstanding!


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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
I was myself the target of the ire of a ( former) Mod a few years ago when I vocally expressed doubts with a vendor's statements. Without quoting or linking to the thread in question, I was told - in no uncertain terms - to CEASE and DESIST.

Given the status of both the vendor and the Mod, one could infer from this directive that there are Indeed bounds placed upon what is permissible and what is not when dealing with an entity that Helps Pay The Bills around here.

If that was true back then - it should still be true now. However, it is no secret to anyone that any sort of genuine equality exists here any longer
While im not going to comment about the situation on hand, I am going to remind you of the selling of the site to IB and how that may explain differences. Im not sure of the exact time line of when your situation happened vs when the buyout happened, just thought it was worth mentioning
 
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