New Jersey lawmakers vote to abolish death penalty



Life without parole means we get to care (food, clothes, a roof, etc) for them while locked up, right? What ever happened to, "being responcible for your own actions"?

I think we should have PUBLIC hangings. It just MIGHT (might) make these low lifes think twice.

 

Now...where's that thread on the guy who shot the little girl at point blank range like six times?

 

This is rediculous. I swear, we are screwed as a country now. We are WAAAAAAY to politically correct about EVERYTHING these days. And its going to bite us in the *** sooner than later. Whats next, you commit murder and you get probation, because they dont want to upset the person who commited the murder???

 

It's proven things get worse before they get better. But we may never survive PC-ness.

 

I'm glad someone agrees with me. All the people that I talk to on a daily basis don't think its that bad. And I ask them where in the hell they are from, because its obvious its not the U.S. Either that, or they don't have any involvement with any type of news source. This kind of crap just really rally bothers me. Sorry about my ranting, but my blood pressure is on the rise from crap like this, gotta vent sometimes...

 

Let's see..... NJ has executed anyone since 1963... 47 years.... hmmmm

Have you ever thought of the $$ it COSTS to keep the death penalty? Who do you think foots all the bills for the appeals? Who pays for wrongful death lawsuits? Think about the annual cost (legislative costs, legal, equipment, staff, training, etc etc) just to keep the death penalty as an option. There's only 8 or so on death row.

Research & educate yourself before jumping to sweeping generalizations....... here's a link to the Death Penalty Commission Report - http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/committees/dpsc_final.pdf

In a nutshell, here are their findings:

FINDINGS
(1) There is no compelling evidence that the New Jersey death penalty rationally serves a
legitimate penological intent.
(2) The costs of the death penalty are greater than the costs of life in prison without parole,
but it is not possible to measure these costs with any degree of precision.
(3) There is increasing evidence that the death penalty is inconsistent with evolving standards
of decency.
(4) The available data do not support a finding of invidious racial bias in the application of the
death penalty in New Jersey.
(5) Abolition of the death penalty will eliminate the risk of disproportionality in capital
sentencing.
(6) The penological interest in executing a small number of persons guilty of murder is not
sufficiently compelling to justify the risk of making an irreversible mistake.
(7) The alternative of life imprisonment in a maximum security institution without the
possibility of parole would sufficiently ensure public safety and address other legitimate social
and penological interests, including the interests of the families of murder victims.
(8) Sufficient funds should be dedicated to ensure adequate services and advocacy for the
families of murder victims.

RECOMMENDATIONS
The Commission recommends that the death penalty in New Jersey be abolished and
replaced with life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, to be served in a maximum
security facility. The Commission also recommends that any cost savings resulting from the
abolition of the death penalty be used for benefits and services for survivors of victims of
homicide.

 

PC'ness is worse elsewhere. Talk to the folks in the UK. You cannot publicly proclaim your pride in your country...because it offends the people who immigrated into the country because they aren't from there. That's BS if you ask me.

 

mean while a guy in north korea gets executed for making a long distance phone call on company time

 

I'd rather pay taxes on having a killer hung in public, than pay to keep that POS alive.

...but hey, I'm from Texas..we dont **** around.

 

Ron White said it best.

 

I agree that it's cheaper to keep them on death row instead of killing them with the system as it is now. What we need to do is change the system. No more sitting on death row for twenty or thirty years, and appealing 10 or 12 times. I say you get your trial, if you're found guilty you get 1 appeal and 1 year to get that appeal done. If you haven't completed your appeal within a year, you die. Period, end of story. The person or people you murdered didn't get a chance to appeal 10 times, they didn't get a 20years to figure out how to get out of it.

 

The law has spoken.

It's actually pretty simple IMO.

 

That's great.... as long as you're not one of the ones (or families) of those exonerated by advances in technology....

In the U.S., as of June 2002, 108 people including 12 death row inmates, have been exonerated by use of DNA tests. The increasing use of DNA testing to help confirm the innocence or guilt in capital cases is one among many reforms that will help ensure that innocent people are not sentenced to death. http://www.aclu.org/capital/innocenc...b20020626.html

If you're aware of any future technologial advances that society will allow that will 100% guarantee where you are/what you're doing 24/7, please let us know.....

 

I agree with Smokey 100%. But this is when the politcally correct issue comes in to play. You know the government would say, "Well its just not right if we kill him right away. People will complain that we didnt do enough to help them." The goverment caters to to much BS!

Texas has this crap down to a science. I couldnt agree more with what they have going. I agree with you to Jamz. I would rather pay more to watch them die, than to watch them soak up 3 hots cot for 30 freaking years.

 

The death penalty is far too flawed in its application.

Rich? You aint’t getting it.

Snitch? You may be able to avoid it while a co-conspirator gets it.

Innocent? You could still get it.

Do most of the people on death row deserve it? Probably.

You want to execute more innocent people? Cut down the appeal process.

(The death penalty costs more than a life sentence due to the appeals etcetera.)