I never thought of it that way. Kind of cool.

 

It is 2007. maybe they didn't put tie downs in the bed until recently. But they do now. Don't you think they should be of good quality? You didn't mention the finish of the bed on the pigolet. what about all the spot welds and all around crappy finish? I can attest to how strong the ford's tie downs are. I brought home a 80 gallon air compressor last weekend and tightend the heck out of the straps and the tie downs didn't flinch. Four small spot welds on the cheby would have probably broke. sorry pal, but rear drums are far away cheaper to make than disks. It is proven that discs are more effective, stop straighter (no wandering) and are more expensive to make. The only reason gm put drums on there is to save a few bucks. Period. If it was more expensive to make drums, why would they, since disks work better? Your logic makes NO sense. Typical koolaid drinker.

 

I friggin LOVE those new rc/sb Chevys ^ That one is perfect
If I was looking for a new truck one exactley like that would be at the top of my list...

As far as SUVs go too, I wouldnt even look at other ones besides a Tahoe. Actually Ive looked at quite a few different suvs. Those Hoes blow anything else out of the water IMO. If I wove up tomorrow and wanted a SUV I would just go straight to the Chevy dealer and buy one without stopping anywhere else



Some of you guy are crazy...if Fords new truck was a bare frame with a carbed 6 cylinder and just a seat and a steering wheel you wuold still buy one. Brand loyalty is nice, but damn, that doesnt mean they are the best...

 

It wasnt common to all brands, Chevy had terrible paint then and even admitted to it. My dad got his truck and my moms suburban repained by Chevy in the first 3 years, I think Maaco could do a better paint job.

Truth is all have made huge improvment since then, but Chevy & Ford now have really good paint. My detail guy was telling me American trucks now have paint that rivals the upper end sedans sold just a couple years ago

 

Ford had crappy paint too. They just never admitted it!

My '93 F150 and many others had to be re-painted at "our" (owner's) expense.

 

Good freaking grief.

GM has a optional cargo management system which actually looks kind of neat in the Silverado, each tie down is rated for 500 lbs, which if there is four of them is a tad more capacity than the truck is rated to haul. I can't find any ratings on the normal loops, but then Ford doesn't have theirs on their website either, nor did I find anything like that cargo system from the factory. My bent plate with two screws has held everything I have hauled, they haven't flinched at my 400lb dirtbike, but then I never had a problem using the rubber based stake pocket loops when I was hauling it in my Ranger either.

The spot welds I can't really comment on, I haven't seen them so I can't say anything one way or the other. I have never seen mine either though, between the factory bed rail caps and spay in bed liner it came with it I can't see much and have I absolutley nothing to go on.

F-150's (like most Fords) have a small drum inside the rotor for the parking brake so they actually have both. GM did have disks for a short time, but for whatever reason they switched back. Like I said I have noticed little difference performancewise between our trucks, I know mine was wanting to go everywhere but straight right before I hit a deer a year ago. It is a mildly entertaining sidenote that many trains and heavy trucks still use drums, I bet they are wanting to save a couple bucks at the cost of performance too.

You want to talk about a company that skimps on quality to save a couple bucks? Three words... cruise control switch. That did far more damage to the Ford nameplate than any of the minor issues you have brought to the table thus far could hope to.

I have Fords because I think they are a better truck overall, but like everything else they are not perfect either. For crying out loud I have never even owned a GM, and I like my trucks (note both are Ford's) enough to not jump ship.

I agree, and they say I am the coolaid drinker...

They have improved that is a given, the big problem was it took awhile for them to figure out how to get paint to stick to galvinized metal. It was two years old when my dad got it, and it probably took another 4-5 years for it to start shedding so by that time it was well out of warentee. It seems to be common to Dodge, Ford and Chevy in the late 80's to early 90's, at least in my area. I can think of several trucks of that vintage of each make in my hometown that are doing it/have done it.

 

god i would love to have that truck, that pics from ebay right? If only there was some way God could magically make my truck disapear and put that exact black silverado 2 door 4x4 in its spot

 

I still like my Ford better and personally would never, ever drive any truck other than a Ford.

Now with that said, Chevy has a decent lookin' truck, as for the rest of it I don't know enough about to comment.

 

 

tell ya what hot pants... go look at the bed quality of a new gm truck, then a Ford's. you will see what I mean. If you don't know the benifits of disk over drum brakes.. well there is no talking to you I guess. Don't give me crap about the speed control switch. how lame. It wasn't to save money. it was a vendor defect. All manufacturers try to save money. especially with the union costs haunting them. Just that gm skimps in some very significant ways. You talk about paint like you know what your talking about. I painted kenworth trucks for 8 years.. I might know a little here so let me enlighten you. The paint problems all manufacturers have had are not there fault. The manufacturers contract paint suppliers like dupont or ppg. because of the enviro wacko's, paint manufacturers are trying to come up with a good water based paint. They have been trying since about 1974 on production vehicles. The products have failed as most of us have seen. So don't blame any car manufacturer.. blame your local tree hugger.

 

I certainly wouldn't include a parking brake in the discussion as it's not supposed to be used when the vehicle is in motion.

The reason was cost. GM decided that being cheaper was better than being better.

Trains do not, not have they ever, used drum brakes! With the exception of some passenger equipment that has disk brakes, locomotives and all freight equipment have brake shoes that contact the wheel itself. Heavy trucks use drum brakes because the amount of heat generated would require a disk of a size that wouldn't fit under the truck.

Nice try, but your "mildly entertaining" facts seem to be based on wishfulness rather than reality.

 

class 8 trucks also use drum brakes because of costs. I worked for kenworth trucks for 8 years.. albeit as a painter.. but I talked to many workers and sales. They offer disk brakes on the trucks.. but the cost is to high. Face it .... disk brakes work better, and are safer, and have less fade. gm uses drums in the back because it is cheaper to make. Hell, if they thought there wouldn't be an uproar, they would use drums in the front too. They cheap out on every thing else besides. Once again.... GM= God's mistake....

 

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