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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Tundra Bashing thread

I think this thread can be refered to when anyone asks about the Tundra compared to the F150. I found this on motor trends website. It was written by a Chevy owner..

Lou Kaltenstein
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Gene Norris Buick-GMC Trucks Inc./Norris Auto Group
18170 Bagley Rd
Middleburg Hts., Ohio 44130

There has been a lot of talk about Toyota Tundra's new ads and how
impressive they are. Here are some myths about their spots that I
have found and that should be refuted. Also, they are offering a
"IVC" type program on Tundra to help with sales.

I would guess all of you have seen the ad where the Tundra pulls a
trailer up a steep grade (a 'see-saw'), and then barrels down hill and
locks the brakes up just before the end of the ramp. Many of you have
commented on how well done the spot is visually. However, here are
the actual facts to share with people:

1. The V.O. at the beginning of the spot says...."It's tough
pushing 10,000 lbs up a steep grade". Myth: Toyota would like the
audience to believe the trailer is 10,000 lbs. Fact: It's a 5,000 lb
truck pulling a 5,000 lb trailer. A little slight of hand? You bet.

2. Then, on the way down the grade, the camera zooms in on the
brakes as the vehicles comes to a screeching halt just prior to the
end of ramp. Next time you see the ad....look for the 'mice type'.
It indicates the trailer is equipped with electric brakes.
Fact....the electric brakes stop the trailer -- not the truck. A
little slight of hand? You bet.

3. And why does Toyota have bigger brake pads? They need
them....their truck is heavier. Stopping distance between our truck
and theirs is virtually identical. And why does Toyota have a 6 speed
transmission? To improve their fuel economy....which is still 2 mpg
less than ours.

4. And don't forget....their big V8 has one axle ratio -- a
4.3. Suck fuel much? Our trucks offer several axle options to
optimize towing and fuel economy. Bottom line: OUR TRUCK IS BETTER!
Spread the word.......we can all make a difference.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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It's magic.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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I have never bought into any of their advertising HYPE since the get go...............
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I hate the new Tundra, I saw one of them on the road today.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Does it tow more?
Does it have a higher payload?
Does it haul **** faster?
More get up and go (even being heavier)?
Where was it made?


Just playing the devils advocate.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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I'd love to have 4.30 gears in my truck.

Why does everyone take it so personally that Toyota made a truck with a kick-*** engine? Competition is good for us - the customer. The bar gets raised every year each new truck is better than the last. I guess I should get my asbestos blanket out now. .

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Moltenice
Does it tow more?
No


Originally Posted by Moltenice
Does it have a higher payload?
No


Originally Posted by Moltenice
Does it haul **** faster?
One would assume, Although Im not racing when towing. I bought a truck not a sportscar


Originally Posted by Moltenice
More get up and go (even being heavier)?
Thats about the same as your third though


Originally Posted by Moltenice
Where was it made??
It was assembled In San Antionio Texas, the profits from its sale will go back to Japan to better its economy not ours


Originally Posted by Moltenice
Just playing the devils advocate
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmu...op=3&tab=specs

Everything I have found says the Tundra out tows the f-150... I havent seen a F-150 over the 1000lb mark. Tundra is rated at 10300 which is probably due to the power and TQ.

F-150 has a higher payload, probably due to the frame.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scott1981
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No




One would assume, Although Im not racing when towing. I bought a truck not a sportscar




Thats about the same as your third though


It was assembled In San Antionio Texas, the profits from its sale will go back to Japan to better its economy not ours



True, you dont want to race along while towing, but getting up to speed on lets say a short highway on ramp, would be a BIG BIG BIG advantage in the Tundra, which you should appreciate if you have ever hauled something heavy.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Moltenice
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmu...op=3&tab=specs

Everything I have found says the Tundra out tows the f-150... I havent seen a F-150 over the 1000lb mark. Tundra is rated at 10300 which is probably due to the power and TQ.

F-150 has a higher payload, probably due to the frame.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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The Toyota see saw test commercial came on just as I started reading this.


It's a sign from above that the Tundra Sucks
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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you guys will love this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJBuYD-5cuI
With Japanese man and all.

This one gives you a better idea though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uH_q...elated&search=
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Moltenice
True, you dont want to race along while towing, but getting up to speed on lets say a short highway on ramp, would be a BIG BIG BIG advantage in the Tundra, which you should appreciate if you have ever hauled something heavy.
Hauled 8-9 k with my 4.6 on a 5 hour road trip through the tx hillcountry. I never held up traffic and was able to maintain speed better than the 18 wheelers on the hills. So far it has all the power I need, I havent even purchased a tuner yet as it does all I need it to know reliably and while looking good
 
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