Okay, I said I was going to post this later and well. it's later.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

If I have a cause it's Liberty. Pure, simple, unviolated Liberty. Freedom if you will. I, with every fiber of my being, belive in and am dedicated to the Freedom of this country as established by our Founding Fathers. I will restrict this topic to the second amendmet, thus not to run on forever with issues that face us today.

Many of you no doubt are members of the National Rifle Association (NRA). Of those a portion of you contribute to their coffers under the pretense of preserving our second amendment rights. Ladies and Gentlemen, I am telling you here and now that you are paying the fox to watch the henhouse. I will being by reposing a letter that I drafted to them at the end of 2006/beginning of 2007. It may seem long, but I implore you to read it.


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I received the ‘2006--THE YEAR IN REVIEW’ e-mail from the NRA-ILA and had had to chuckle. Unfortunately my laughter was only momentary and then it gave way to contempt. Before I go any further please take a moment to read the opening paragraph of the e-mail in question:
2006--THE YEAR IN REVIEW
Here are some of the top stories we brought you in the NRA ILA Grassroots Alert in 2006. With the new challenges we will inevitably face next year in Congress and the states, we must re-double our efforts to ensure we are prepared to effectively defend the Second Amendment. To that end, we will continue to provide you with information in future Alerts to ensure our success.
This particularly dubious statement is what raised my ire.

“…we must re-double our efforts to ensure we are prepared to effectively defend the Second Amendment.”

I find it to be both laughable and disingenuous. The National Rifle Association has been a leading facilitator of gun control legislation in this country since 1934.

The 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA) placed an excessive tax on select fire weapons, sound moderators, and certain ‘short barreled’ firearms. It was whole heartedly supported by the National Rifle Association. The following is a quote from Karl T FREDERICK who was the President of the NRA in 1934

(NRA’s President's Testimony During Congressional Debate
of the National Firearms Act of 1934): ... "I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons... I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses"

Neither the Constitution nor the Bills of Rights mention needing a license from the government to exercise our freedoms, so why did (and does) the NRA support such tyranny?

The NRA supported the 1938 Federal Firearms Act (FFA) which mandated that any person selling firearms must obtain a Federal Firearms License, and to maintain records of the name and address of persons to whom firearms were sold.

In 1968 the NRA fully supported the 1968 Gun Control Act (GCA) which mimics the **** Weapons Law of 1938. Among the repugnant sections of the act are
"a. requiring a sworn statement, containing certain information, from the purchaser to the seller for the receipt of a handgun in interstate commerce;"
"b. providing for notification of local police of prospective sales;"
"c. requiring an additional 7-day waiting period by the seller after receipt of acknowledgement of notification to local police;"
and
"...requir[ing] a license to carry a pistol concealed on one's person or in a vehicle..."
In addition to creating a gun owner registry with provisions a., b., and c. they violate a persons 4th amendment rights. 1 The last provision is clearly un-Constitutional. “Shall not be infringed” does not translate to “must have a license”.
One needs to look no farther than the March 1968 issue of American Rifleman for proof, specifically pages 22 – 23.

Pg 22 “WHERE THE NRA STANDS ON GUN LEGISLATION
97-year record shows positive approach to workable gun laws

By ALAN C. WEBBER
Associate Editor
THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN”
"The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871."
—NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth
NRA's American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22
The so called 1994 ‘Assault weapons ban’ was yet another useless and un-Constitutional piece of legislation that without the support of the NRA would have never passed.
Yet in spite of these glaring examples of the NRA compromising my rights as an American citizen I still receive monthly if not weekly solicitations for my hard earned money to financially support the NRA and its activities. Unless and until the NRA stands for the true meaning of the second amendment, which is not about shotguns or duck hunting, and for ALL gun owners you will not receive a single penny from me.

Respectfully,
P_D
Life Member

 

Talking points (I'll address these later in any order you wish)

The NRA was created because two Generals were appalled at the urine imporerished marksmanship skills exhibited by Yankee Soldiers during the Civil War. It began as a training club, not to protect our rights as they so often claim.

They wholeheartedly supported the 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA), the grand daddy ove tyranny when it comes to the second amendment

They supported the 1938 Federal Firearms Act (FFA)

They supported the 1968 Gun Control Act (GCA)

They supported the 1986 Fireamrs Owner Protection Act (FOPA) but with a bitter twist. It closed the civilian Machine Gun registry

They supported the 1994 "Assault Weapons Ban" (AWB) - without which it never would have passed.

They supported the NICS expansion act

They have supported every piece of gun control that has burdened the shoulders and conscience of every Freedom loving American since their inception.

One of their Board Members, Joaquin Jackson, spoke about limiting people's freedom in 2005, with restrictions on magazine capacities.

Like examples are rampant throughout their existence.

In 1997 or thereabouts one of their top suits resigned citing corruption through the ranks, improprieties in advertisement, business deals, and even in their rating scale for politicians!

I propose that you do not give the NRA another PENNY of financial support until they embrace the true, unabridged Second Amendment.

The duck hunters can take their 12ga pumps, the upland birdhunters can take their expensive O/Us and SxSs and stick them where the sun doth not shine. Neither is what the Second Amendment is about and neither is covered under the precedent set by Miller vs US decision from the SCOTUS (1939).

I'll return to post more on this tomorrow evening sometime. G'night.

 

All you said there is accurate..

However, what orginization would you suggest we support, on a NATIONAL level, that can better support our rights than the NRA?

I agree that they generally suck ***, but at this time they are the only major player..

I'd very much welcome your ideas for another 2nd Amendment org. to support.. one that can have any influence whatsoever..

 

I didn't even read all that crap, nor do I really keep up on this stuff, but one thing did come to mind: How do the policies of *former* NRA Presidents' and times of the past have anything to do with that they strive for today?

Unless I am totally off base, it was my understanding that the NRA is actually fighting for the rights of gun owners in the MAJORITY of cases TODAY. Is that not true?

 

Thats what he said, I and most gun owners agree.

Being a memeber or donating is like paying the fox to watch the hen house, that is a great analogy.
Devide and concor, phht they did one better, they have infiltrated us under false pretenses. Spys for the enemy paid for by us.

They havet done all bad, but they done more giving, than takeing and no part of the constitution is anything that we as Americans should give or compromise on. End of story.

Every inch of give is a fallen soldiers life that was given for our freedom.... wasted.

they have and still do today, support many types of gun control... they can claim pro-gun all they want, but they are pro/anti-gun.

 

Guns don't hurt people. It's people that hurt people. End of story.

 

Nationally? Join the GOA or JPFO, even SAF. Hell join all three, but that's not the end. I suggest that people write to the NRA; Chris ***, Wayne LaPiere et al and let them know in no uncertain circumstances that we do not support their constant compromising. Unless and until they support an unabridged Second Amendment, do not contribute a penny to their coffers. You want to get their attention? Hit them in the wallet.

I have grown tired of my contributions being disbursed to anyone who professes the mildest pro-gun stance during election time. I am tired of the constant solicitation for donations to an organization that does not represent my views very well, if at all. They need a wakeup call. They have forsaken the very spirit of the Second Amendment, and gun owners. They have taken the easy way out for too long. They coddle the duck and deer hunters while leaving the AR, FAL, and AK owners out in the cold, even bad mouthing some along the way.

In all of the notifications of sweepstakes that you've received how many AR 15's do you see listed as prizes? How many Thompson repros do you see? Their offerings are almost exclusively shiny hunting shotguns and field grade rifles. They might be fun to shoot, but I can buy one of those myself. Why not offer up an $8,000+ Barrett as the Grand Prize? Why not an ArmaLite AR -30 or AR -50? At least throw in an M1A SOCOM model.

Again, I am suggesting the you contact the NRA and inform them in no uncertain circumstances that you do not do not support their incessant compromising. Do not be intimidated to make that phone call. THEY are supposed to work for YOU, just like your Congressmen.

Lumadar,

"I didn't even read all that crap,"

I challenge you to point out what I said that was "crap". I want facts, not opinions.


"nor do I really keep up on this stuff, but one thing did come to mind: How do the policies of *former* NRA Presidents' and times of the past have anything to do with that they strive for today?"

Brilliant! You are eligible to vote correct? Why would we possibly want to keep up with things? What could we possibly learn from the past?

 

I'm not a gun owner, but that doesn't mean I'm against them. The Constitution gives us the right and I stand behind that 100%. WE THE PEOPLE need to do the job, not the NRA, organizations just get in the way and usually turn into money making machines hidden behind a slogan. WE THE PEOPLE need to vote and take back control, that's my opinion, you have the right to agree or disagree.

 

I don't disagree with you at all.

 

The NRA is a joke. They got in bed with the Clinton administration in the '90s. I let my membership run out in 2002.

 

Did you let them know why? Send them a short letter.

 

I'm only a member to keep my high power rifle classification current.

 

Trash them if you like however we'd all be shooting rubber bands today if it weren't for the NRA. Are they perfect? No. But lobbying is where the rubber meets the road, and I can't think of a more powerful group to represent me and fight for my 2A rights.

 

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http://www.gunowners.org/

 

Gun laws... That's just asking the government's permission to defend yourself. I have the right to defend myself, my family, and my friends because I say so. I'll answer to the consequences if that need ever arises.

Besides, if you went to court over shooting someone in self-defense, chances are slim to none that you'll walk away a free man. They'll nail you with some bull-chit charge because all the bleeding heart liberals feel sorry for the scumbag that tried to kill you. It wouldn't be my fault if he's a bad shot. If I have to pay for justice, I'll pay for it out of my own my a$$. That's the way I see it.