Towing weight limits
I have a 05 Screw 4.6, 3.55 gears.It came with a 6700# package .I'm not sure what that is. The truck does have a trans cooler & a frame mounted reciever hitch. I'm looking at a toy hauler which has a dry weight of 6200# Can anyone out there tell me how this set up may workout.
6700# is the GCWR (gross combined weight rating) that the truck can tow. This number takes into account the weight of the trailer, with a load, any cargo in the truck, plus the weight of passengers and fuel. A good rule of thumb is to not exceed more then 80% of this number. If you were to pull a trailer that weighed close to the maximum, the conditions you encounter on the road would put you over what the truck is rated to safely pull.
The gross combined weight rating of your truck is 11,700 lb's. That's a heavy toy hauler at 6200 lbs empty! You've basically maxed yourself out, unless that already has a load in it. That's the only way to do it when you add the weight of your truck, because that takes you right up to that 11,700 mark.
As Tbird mentioned, you basically can't add passengers and gear now, or gas.
Even if you went over a bit I think in all likelihood the truck would handle it fine. I'm sure Ford covers their proverbial ***** with their ratings in so ensuring they're well within that safe zone, but that's just my opinion
As Tbird mentioned, you basically can't add passengers and gear now, or gas.
Even if you went over a bit I think in all likelihood the truck would handle it fine. I'm sure Ford covers their proverbial ***** with their ratings in so ensuring they're well within that safe zone, but that's just my opinion
The RV dealer said that I'm @ the trucks limit number wise but ford is being conservative with there figures. Is that dealer trying to make a sale or what!!!!!
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You have a dry curb weight of about 4709lbs
A tank of gas 26 gals = 162.5lbs (6.25 lbs per gal @ 26 gallons)
now your at 4871.5 lbs
Oil, coolant, washer fluid, trans fluid, differential oil, etc..... lets say proabbly conservatively another 200 lbs for it all.
5071.5 lbs.....
You + 1 passenger + misc... (Drinks, food, maps gear etc) lest say conservatively. 350 lbs....
5421.5 lbs
When I hear toy hauler I auomatically think 4 wheelers......
Typical sport 4wheeler is about 400 lbs (+/- 20lbs) more for a ute.....
One 4-wheeler
5821.5 lbs
Camping gear, food, clothes, tools, fresh water in holding tanks if needed......
lets say conservatively 500 lbs
6321.5 lbs
If your GCWR is only 6700 lbs then you can only get a trailer that weighs less than 378.5 lbs............

I'd guess you read your door sticker wrong, your loaded curbweight might be 6700 lbs your GCWR should be closer to 11K lbs.....
Which would let you have a trailer that weighs closer to 4678.5 lbs and still be with in manufacturers guidlines.
In most states another thing you have to watch more than manufacturers specs, is your license plate rating. I routinly go over the GCWR and have 106K no problems miles, but when I'm over my 12K lbs license plate limit... I am worried about DOT catching me........
A tank of gas 26 gals = 162.5lbs (6.25 lbs per gal @ 26 gallons)
now your at 4871.5 lbs
Oil, coolant, washer fluid, trans fluid, differential oil, etc..... lets say proabbly conservatively another 200 lbs for it all.
5071.5 lbs.....
You + 1 passenger + misc... (Drinks, food, maps gear etc) lest say conservatively. 350 lbs....
5421.5 lbs
When I hear toy hauler I auomatically think 4 wheelers......
Typical sport 4wheeler is about 400 lbs (+/- 20lbs) more for a ute.....
One 4-wheeler
5821.5 lbs
Camping gear, food, clothes, tools, fresh water in holding tanks if needed......
lets say conservatively 500 lbs
6321.5 lbs
If your GCWR is only 6700 lbs then you can only get a trailer that weighs less than 378.5 lbs............

I'd guess you read your door sticker wrong, your loaded curbweight might be 6700 lbs your GCWR should be closer to 11K lbs.....
Which would let you have a trailer that weighs closer to 4678.5 lbs and still be with in manufacturers guidlines.
In most states another thing you have to watch more than manufacturers specs, is your license plate rating. I routinly go over the GCWR and have 106K no problems miles, but when I'm over my 12K lbs license plate limit... I am worried about DOT catching me........
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Sep 9, 2007 at 01:03 AM.
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
You have a dry curb weight of about 4709lbs
A tank of gas 26 gals = 162.5lbs (6.25 lbs per gal @ 26 gallons)
A tank of gas 26 gals = 162.5lbs (6.25 lbs per gal @ 26 gallons)
The frames in the newer bodystyle added quite a bit of weight. Also, the Screw comes with a 30 gal tank.
GVWR may be 6700, but GCWR is 11700. GVWR is max truck weight including trailer tongue weight, GCWR is max truck and trailer weight.
You will be over GCWR and possibly over GVWR with that toy hauler. It will tow it with a WD hitch and careful loading to keep tongue weight in a reasonable range, but it won't get out of its own way. That 4.6 will be crying for mercy and the 3.55 gears will really hurt.
Ask the RV dealer to let you take the thing out and drive it. See what you think.
EDIT: The GVWR may not be 6700 but even with a 6700# trailer rating, there's GCWR to worry about.
You will be over GCWR and possibly over GVWR with that toy hauler. It will tow it with a WD hitch and careful loading to keep tongue weight in a reasonable range, but it won't get out of its own way. That 4.6 will be crying for mercy and the 3.55 gears will really hurt.
Ask the RV dealer to let you take the thing out and drive it. See what you think.
EDIT: The GVWR may not be 6700 but even with a 6700# trailer rating, there's GCWR to worry about.
Originally Posted by jt2550
I agree with u on 11K I never said the GCWR was 6700# I said the truck had a 6700# package as a option added to it and i wasn't sure what that meant.

Wouldn't worry about it, main thing is the GCWR.
Take your truck to the scale with the normal gear you ussually have with you and a full tank of gas. Subtract that weight from the GCWR and that will be your trialer + gear. Figure up you maximum gear and supplies that you might ever want to load and subtract that. Don't forget the holding tanks on the trailer. Water is about 8 lbs a gallon. If your always going to be somehwer ethat has filling stations and a dump station then you will never have to travel with full tanks. If not, if your every having to run fully self contained..... then you will have to add the water weight. Be generous with this number because you will always under estimate. With boats and camper you learn how important it is to remember to add stuff like that 2 lb lawn chair...... it's not much but those forgotten things add up quickly.
After you've added all of that up and and subtracted it from the GCWR, that is the trailer weight maximum to be with in the recomended vehicle range.
Some will try to tell you it won't do it, it will, just not very well and be sure to maintian those trailer brakes, you'll need them.
Originally Posted by jt2550
My truck would have to be equiped with a electric brake controller which it don't have at the moment. They want to install this and a sway bar and a load leveling hitch.
Dude, the trailer brake controler consit of pluging it in to the port under your dash. Pluging in the electrical plug into your tail light harness and instaling a few fuses. Don't pay them for that. If they tell you it's included in the price of the trailer then ask them to knock the price down and you'll do it your self.
The sway bar goes on the trialer tounge and since you are so close to weight, proabbly a good idea, the hitch is what the sway bar attaches to, it is about $300, it just slide into your reciver hitch and is your ball for trailer and a second ball for sway bar/load leveling arm.





