They can compete. You know how much the useless upper management of the big 3 gets paid? There's who needs to get laid off. That's where the money is going. It is not from so called overpaid union workers, it's from extremely overpaid executives. Fact. Come on, now.

 

Where are you from? Because where ever it is they apparently don't speak English there, or you wouldn't have said what you did considering I never said anything about the fact that I believed they would go away- only that they *should* go away.

I sure hope we don't have to cover the reading comprehension thing again...

 

Touchet? Man, you're funny.

 

Rarely do companies spend their time and money to train someone so they can fire them. It's a union myth. Good employees working hard and doing their job don't get fired - and every union I have ever been around stopped the best performers from getting raises due to their collective bargaining.

The UAW negotiated ridiculous contracts with the big 3 because there's a lot of bad union protecting laws in this country, not because the employees deserved it. In the real world, you make $10-15 and hour to do lug nuts. UAW lug nuts make $60,000... such a highly trained position really should.

When normal workers make $30-40K annual, how can you expect them to pay $40-50K for a vehicle? It is nuts.

PS: I also think the upper management at the big 3 is way overpaid - but they negotiated their own deal and obviously someone thinks that they are actually earning their keep.

 

The company offers the CBA, the union workers vote on whether or not to accept it.

Once again, the company offers the pay scale in the CBA.

The company can't manage things correctly, overpaying for many reasons.

Who deserves 25M a year for a job? That's what's nuts.

 

Nobody would complain if they were getting $25m a year. Not me anyways.

 

I've had and gotten rid of many employees that weren't worth $10 annually, never mind thousands. There are thousands of jobs that pay lower wages. Would you go to McDonalds and buy a $20 Big Mac? You are living off those people. The UAW in particular has falsely inflated wages in tasks requiring little to no skill.

The company rarely "offers" the increases and huge retirement packages, more like they are forced into a corner, it's that or the workforce will walk out... worked when the wages and benefits were mediocre, now is putting the companies out of business.

Frankly, Caterpillar hit the nail on the head when there was a strike in Peoria, IL. They found a way to take the jobs elsewhere, in that case Georgia.

Most union workers don't understand economics well enough to discuss the point, they only look in their own wallet... then cry when the evil company moves their job. Better wise up or lose out.

 

Useless management? They are responsible for the rise and fall of any major company and the amount of responsibility that rest with them is almost too much for most to understand. I am VP of a company, I cant even begin to tell you how many sleepless nights I get when things are not going well. I am responsible for any and all problems that arise and I am expected to find a immediate solution. The upper managment types demand a larger paycheck because they have the education and skills to deserve that pay. People who tighten bolts do not earn 60k a year, they are given that because of the unions. Bolting down a bed, or installing a motor should pay no higher than 40k a year. It is unskilled labor a monkey could be taught to perform.

 

There are way too many overpaid, undeserving VP's in any given large corporation. A blind, one armed monkey could do their job, unlike the bed bolt installer. Mechanics have to have skill. All those VP's do is tell people what to do so they don't have to do it themselves, and then kiss up to their superior. I know. I've seen it on a daily basis.