Owen Wilson Attempts Suicide..

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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Oh well. Regardless, I'll never be able to watch Wedding Crashers in the same way again.

You clown.

Vince Vaughn made that movie funny.....
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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You clown.

Vince Vaughn made that movie funny.....
Is that who that was? He's the Blonde guy, right?

He is funny too.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Oh well. Regardless, I'll never be able to watch Wedding Crashers in the same way again.

Thats like saying ill never listen to nirvana again just cuz cobain killed himself...




they still made good work in their areas, kinda dumb to say you cant watch it just cuz the guy tried commiting suicide. My friend tried ODing but i dont look at him in any other way.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
Thats like saying ill never listen to nirvana again just cuz cobain killed himself...



You obviously missed the sarcasm.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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I like the guy. I dont think i have not enjoyed any of his films and ive heard he's actually a pretty nice person in terms of fans and charity. Hope he get's over whatever issues he has to work out.

It may be a little difficult to watch his films and not believe that hes not (for lack of a better term) hurting inside.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
I know money doesn't buy happiness but it makes things earlier.

Why CAN'T I think what I think? It's just a matter of dealing with things yourself and not taking the easy way out. What sort of excuse makes suicide ok unless there is some sort of crazy circumstance where you're already dying and in constant pain that immobilizes you?
I agree that suicide is taking the easy way out but like I said its not so cut and dry. There are a ton of other contributing factors. You're in college, I'm sure you've taken at least entry level psychology, they discuss about suicide and how your body and brain are in a much different state of mind than someone that isn't in a serious depression. It's like you're a different person when you're in that kind of state of mind and you do things that normally you wouldn't even consider.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Hey, wait. I thought the uppidy Hollywood types were supposed to die from a drug OD? That's where he screwed up.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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suicide. like a rapest or a serial killer is a genetic flaw, the person has a place in their brain that has the door open. For most, that door is closed and locked.


[QUOTE][Psychology, it's all a mind game and your mind is something that you control./QUOTE]

for most of us in most situations this is true, however not always and every one has thing that can be triggered to make them act differently than they usually do.

hey i dont like green beans, my dog licks here own but and she wont eat green beans, that is how bad they are. yet some people like them, can you explain that to me.......somethings are just our genetic make up and we have limited control at best.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
So a variation from the norm that is uncontrolable is a flaw and they should be excused for their behavior? So THAT'S why we should allow homosexuals to marry.
(just kidding, sorta)

Don't people who aren't mentally retarded have the ability to make conscious choices?
I believe depression is a condition, not a disease. Sure you can take drugs to stop/impair depression...but that's only a crutch and then you allow yourself to build dependencies. Maybe being relient on some drug is fine and dandy, but it sure isn't natural.
I also strongly believe that the human mind is such a powerful little bundle of cells that it can accomplish anything that the mind's owner sets out to do. Maybe sometimes a psychiatrist is needed to give the mind a good kick in the pants, but it seems that someone who tries to end it all has given up on themself. It isn't a cry for help in my mind. It's an acknowledgment of being beaten by something that one can overcome.


Do you do any public speaking?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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So a variation from the norm that is uncontrolable is a flaw and they should be excused for their behavior? So THAT'S why we should allow homosexuals to marry.
(just kidding, sorta)
No we should not excuse it; the punishment if you succeed is death. If you don’t succeed the punishment is extreme embarrassment and the scares that tell other that you have a problem. In Owen Wilson’s case it will be broadcast to the world.

Punishment for rapists is jail

punishment for serial killer is death or jail.

I am not trying to define it; I am trying to explain it.

Lack of will power just doesn’t cut it for me. I don’t need will power to not kill myself, eating a dozen donut is another story.
 

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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I can't and never will have any self respect for anyone who attempts or commits suicide. I think its chicken chit and you need to buck up to the plate. Yea life is hard but thats part of it. I have had some really chitty things happen to me and never once coinsidered ending it.. I have even had doctors tell me at one point in my life I only had a 30% chance of living and damn near died. But did I give up.. Hell no. Fight the fight. if god didn't want you here you wouldn't be here. I believe everyone is put on this planet to serve a purpose.. And by ending it yourself you don't accomplish anything, and you hurt so many people that you never even realized cared. I've had to deal with two suicides in my town in the past year. Both family's were close friends and it hurts me as a person to see the struggles that they're having to deal with just because someone decided to be selfish and take the easy way out.....
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
We didn't talk about suicide much, but in general I believe it's all a matter of will power.
You allow yourself to develop serious depression and then allow yourself to take the easy way out.
Psychology, it's all a mind game and your mind is something that you control.
Heh, I *used* to completely agree with that...but after having personal experiences with people I know, as well as a few college level courses that touch psychology etc I now realize it *can* be much more complex than that.

For some people it may only be a matter of personal control of your thoughts, feelings, actions etc. However, for others it can stem for very serious and very hard to treat physical, chemical imbalances of the body- and more specifically of the brain in most cases. This can often times go beyond even the strongest will power...

That said, I was bummed and worried to hear about this guy. Do I know him? Hell no. In fact, I used to HATE the guy...but I do think he's pretty funny, and from what I have hear a pretty good person. He's had some rough times with his love life, and who knows what else. Cut the guy some slack, and if anything shoot a prayer his way.
 
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